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[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago

..... Don't we need more bees?

[-] Luci@lemmy.ca 34 points 3 days ago

Some of us have allergies to specific pollinators. I can’t have some honey without a scratchy throat.

Love bees! Can’t have what they make :((

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 3 days ago

You might have a superpower.

A LOT of honey in grocery stores are actually syrup but due to capitalism, there really is no real way to tell for sure.

If you are allergic, but won't die, from having honey, you might be able to make a guide for those of us that actually want real honey but have trouble trusting asshole companies.

[-] Luci@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 days ago
[-] meta4@retrolemmy.com 1 points 2 days ago

Love the brevity.

[-] mEEGal@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I mean... capitalism is the source of many problems, but probably not why we can't tell the difference between honey and counterfeit syrup sold as such

Chemistry is to blame here

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago

The allergens in honey are from where the honey was made. If you haven’t already you might try locally sourced honey as it will have the allergens that are already in the air where you live.

[-] Luci@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago

I’m allergic to basically everything outside so I’m kinda boned.

[-] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago

We need more native pollinators, and honey bees are very good at outcompeting them once they're introduced, threatening biodiversity and thus ecosystems.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Ah I'm in the UK where they are native pollinators

[-] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

That doesn't mean that introducing them in unnatural numbers isn't harmful to biodiversity and other native pollinators

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago

That's not what we're talking about though, we have a declining bee population problem that needs intervention to save

[-] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

That was exactly what I was talking about. Honey bees are just one very specific type of bees, and they're replacing the other ones.

[-] LwL@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yes and no. Yes, they compete with the other ones and due to domestication have very high population, but also the same factors endangering honey bees (insecticides, monocultures) also endanger other bee species. So while "give the honey bees more sugar water so they survive" would be horrible foe ecological diversity, actually adressing the underlying factors would largely also benefit other species.

I wouldn't even be surprised if to some degree that still applied to places where they're invasive tbh

[-] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.cafe 13 points 3 days ago

Yes. Every type of bee except honeybees is declining. In part because humans are constantly favouring honeybees.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 3 days ago

still not healthy for them to be 85% of what's pollinating crops, though

[-] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

Prime wherever you are that's not the UK defaultism to assume that honeybees are not native pollinators.

[-] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

Breeding a native species in unnatural numbers is also a way of that species outcompeting other native species and harming biodiversity

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

You can narrow it down to just the Americas. The European honey bee (and subspecies) are native all across Europe, Asia, and Africa I believe.

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

Here in Europe, the European Honeybee is, not surprisingly, completely native.

[-] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

That doesn't mean that introducing them in unnaturally large numbers isn't harmful to biodiversity

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago

Oh yeah, them artificially displacing solitary bees is still bad

[-] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Agreed! But I don't really get what point you were trying to make in the first comment then?

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

That the problem isn't "native vs invasive". It's "biodiversity vs monoculture".

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