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The prodigal son returns!

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[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Stuff like this is why I’m not entirely convinced “last elections ever” and “gas chambers in alligator Alcatraz” are likely to happen. They can’t even fully commit to shutting down media opposition, although owning all major media both old and new is a concerning start.

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 37 points 1 week ago

I'd like to be optimistic, but it's also still year one and the shit that is happening is still laying the groundwork for far more horrific shit. They don't need gas chambers for people to be killed. And apparently theres a big chunk of people missing from the Florida concentration camp, for example. Not to mention the folks in camps that get sick and fucked up when Covid makes its way through them.

[-] Transform2942@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 week ago

I think maybe what will save the USA from getting to gas chambers and roving death squads (if that's how it plays out) is that all of this flooding the zone and accelerationism that they are doing to overwhelm the opposition and the media is also overwhelming their own ability to respond.

He wants to force the South Koreans into an unequal treaty but the deportation ramp up and lack of interagency coordination handed them a perfect reason to stall. He wants to ramp up weapon production but the trade war has choked off the defense industry's access to rare earths and other manufacturing inputs. He wants to ethnically cleanse Gaza and turn a profit on it but he keeps getting distracted by NATO very obviously losing the war in Ukraine. He wants a strong dollar and low interest rates, which are well known to be economic opposites. They barely even got any juice out of Charlie Kirk, and we all saw how hard they tried to wring it from his still-warm corpse

[-] miz@hexbear.net 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

barely even got any juice out of Charlie Kirk

well yeah, most of it had already gushed out of him within seconds

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago

This assassination really had the best memes

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago

Kirked up white boy throated with the sauce.

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Idk, I think you may be mistaken if you think that what Trump is doing in the moment is ultimately what he wants. It's like that old adage, about it not being about the destination but the journey. Him and his allies are ripping the copper out of the walls with every chaotic event that takes place. Like with the Tariff shit; a couple months ago he was openly talking about someone making money in the market off his announcements. Just the other day he was talking about how much profit was made from selling US weapons to Ukraine. They're not turning the US isolationist, but they are isolating USians while knocking their feet out from under them. The goal is not to make america strong, it's to make the the US working class weak and vulnerable while him and his class re-establish themselves as whatever they envision modern day slaveholders to be, whether it be warlords or feudal type shit. Him and his ilk have no allegiance to the country itself, it's just another global market to be shoved back under the boot of global capitalism.

[-] Transform2942@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I understand the argument about Trump and all of his class allies using this period to loot what is left and consolidate control but I don't buy that they are deliberately destroying the imperial institutions that took centuries and oceans of blood to build and maintain.

I don't think they want to forfeit the US dollar's "exorbitant privilege" yet it is rapidly slipping away. I know for an absolute fact that they are howling with rage at the rapprochement between India and China. Do you think as I do that the empire is hurtling towards hyperinflation and a sovereign debt crisis? If so, how would that give the imperial elites more power?

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I don't think hyperinflation is going to play out for us the same way it will for them. They own the means of production, the assets, the private property. Inflation has always been coming out of our pocket while they benefit. I don't see that changing anytime soon. They are in a position that allows for much more flexibility and agility on the global stage than the rest of us have.

As for the imperial institutions, again I don't think they're going to be isolationists, but they will follow the money. And if the wheels fall off in the process, I can't really say that's much of a change than the US has been doing for decades. Look at the F-35. Or from my own personal experience, half the navy fleet has always been on fire. Seriously. I was on a ship 20 years ago that had a fire every other day. The US military has never been a well oiled machine, they've just had good PR.

Edit: lol, do you remember when we first invaded Iraq post-911 and people were donating body armor to soldiers?

[-] Lussy@hexbear.net 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Stuff like this is why I’m not entirely convinced “last elections ever” and “gas chambers in alligator Alcatraz” are unlikely to happen

People love minimizing the antiimmigration violence happening in this country when it’s the chuds in power. They increased the ICE budget by, like, 300%. Iiirc it has a higher budget than the FBI, NSA, and CIA.

That money is not going to just sit there. If they don’t use it now, in the next 4 years, don’t worry, it’ll be the dems using and that’s when we’ll really start talking about it I guess

[-] WrongOnTheInternet@hexbear.net 24 points 1 week ago

Anti immigration violence is pretty normalised in western countries though

[-] Lussy@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago
[-] WrongOnTheInternet@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago

The thought should be ended - people have loved minimising violence against migrants since the commencement of settler colonial states and I think it's pretty central to their establishment

[-] Lussy@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

The thought about violence against immigrants increasing exponentially in the past year shouldn’t be ended

[-] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago

higher budget than the FBI, NSA, and CIA

If my googling is right, it's a higher budget than the FBI and CIA's budget combined.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago

ICE is going to start doing coups in Chicago

[-] Lussy@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

This is so fucked.

[-] miz@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago

170bn is a huge amount of money

[-] LeninWalksTheEarth@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

i find that woefully optimistic. It's been EIGHT MONTHS. THERE'S FORTY MONTHS LEFT.

He only has control of Congress for another 14 months

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago

Yeah fwiw Trump is still the incompetent fascist.

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