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Weird to think that there is some percentage of this world that still goes to BestBuy, GameStop, and watches ads on TV and that its big enough to be worth marketing to.
I’m often surprised when I hear how other people live. Conversation at work will go like:
Employee A: “Youtube ads are getting ridiculous.”
Me: “You still see Youtube ads?”
Employee B: “Yeah, just get Youtube Premium. Such a smart investment.”
Me: “Wait, what?!”
Several of my millennial friends have cable TV and Tivo or something just because they are creatures of habit and are too tired from raising kids to consider changing their process. Weirdly, my boomer parents are the most tech savvy media consumers I know. They just have terrible taste.
This is one of those things that I go against the Lemmy hivemind on. I cut out pretty much every streaming service and sail the high seas for most of my media.But I consider YouTube Premium worth the cost.
I got grandfathered into it when Google Music shut down and I really haven't felt the need to change anything. YouTube music is better than Spotify. I don't have to constantly play the whack-a-mole game of ad blockers that will inevitably break during a YouTube update. I don't have to rely on finicky software to get videos to play in the background with my phone screen off.
Look, I get it. All these features used to be offered for free without ads. I think that more than anything is why people are so rabidly against premium, because they feel like they had that stuff stolen from them. But YouTube is a service, not a right. You were never guaranteed those features permanently. The cost of Premium is miniscule compared to the benefits I get from it. I use YouTube a LOT. Weather for how to videos, or ASMR, or background music, or documentaries, or podcasts. I like knowing that no matter where I use it, from my computer to my phone to the random smart TV in a hotel that I cast to, I'm not going to see any ads.
All this is based on the current services offered at the current price. If and when they start making those services shittier or increase the cost, then I will seek alternatives; but not before.
EDIT: I love all the many replies going "Yea but you could just use this program combined with this plugin on your locally hosted server. Just use these 3 different pieces of software. Have you tried Squootle? Just use Squootle and SEvR, bro. If you use Squootle you can download the video, recompress it, and play it from any desktop running Windows 7."
Man I just use ublock on Firefox, it works on all my devices including my phone, and I've never once had to play with it
Not iPhone unfortunately. Firefox plugins are blocked.
Video Lite works fine for me on iPhone. It even gives me youtube audio with locked screen.
Try Brave; they’re a shit company but the iPhone version gives you back some of the YouTube perks.
And can you play videos on your phone with the screen off?
How about when you cast to a smart TV? Does your browser based ad-block work then too?
What do you use for music? If it's Spotify, why? YT premium costs just about as much.
Brave plays them in the background without ads. I don't ever cast youtube, no philosophical reason, I just don't feel the need to.
I use Amazon music for music, just because I'm too lazy to move services.
I refuse to contribute to Google in any way, shape, or form. But I understand your choice, and I know how hypocritical this sounds after I just said I have Amazon music. But the world is highly imperfect and so am I.
New pipe, smart tube, vanced, etc etc. there are about 15 options before I would pay even 1 extra dollar to Google. Every TV manufacturer seems to still have a working option.
If none of those work, I can honestly just do without.
I'm not the person you asked, and I don't care if you buy YT premium, but Firefox mobile can play background videos, the only finicky thing is it pauses when you turn your screen off, but you can press play on your lockscreen to start it again.
I use smarttube next on my television.
For music, I personally do Qobuz because they pay marginally better than Spotify (albeit still not a ton.)
If you haven't, check out Grayjay for YT on mobile.
Or NewPipe
Because it's not google.
It is, however, the music publishing industry. Mostly Sony Music, Universal Music, and Warner Music.
Those 3 behemoths of avarice hoard the rights to 80%+ of the popular music of the entire world, so they're arguably just as undeserving of your money as Google is 🤷
I personally think the music industry is worse than Google, but they had a head start on being shitheads
Yeah that is definitely against the grain for me.
I pay for Hulu, Netflix, and Amazon prime, but never in life will I pay for YouTube premium. I have Google one and I pay enough for it. There are plenty of apps that still deliver an ad free, promotion free, bullshit free experience and the fact that Google works so hard to fuck with it makes me even less likely to ever pay.
Paying for YouTube would be like paying for tiktok or whatever dumb shit video service people watch now. It just isn't going to happen. I will use the service for free, find the content for free, or else it will get cut from the lineup.
Pay for YouTube / watch YouTube ads... Lol no way to either one.
I'm with you there, but Google is quote rapidly falling off for me. thinking about moving away from all of Google, rolling my own solution and self-hosting (really the only free open path available currently where you're in control) seems like it would be worse than quitting hard opiates or something. I know all the benefits of switching and even the tech part of what I would do at a high level, I'm just lazy.
To be honest I just don’t want google to get more money. They suck.
Also your use case is very specific. The people I was referencing have more basic needs that would be easily bypassed with ublock. It’s fine if the way you like to listen to music is best served by youtube with a subscription.
I definitely buy YouTube premium, have had it for a few years. But I also use it a ton instead of Netflix or Amazon or anything else. I figure at a minimum of 50 hours a week on YouTube I should probably pay for it, even at the like $20 AUD a month or whatever it's climbed to at this point, and creators get a % of my premium money so that supports people.
Maybe it's a combination effort? I run pihole but I tell my friends (who aren't 'techy') when best buy has a good deal. Having the 2 forms of suggestion (ads and word of mouth) may give them a boost.
One of those good deals is a 2-year controller coverage (+$10). If a controller gets stick drift (or any other damage including user-inflicted), you can exchange it at no cost if you paid the extra $10. I know stick drift and defects are typically covered under the manufacturer's warranty but that can be a pain. I sent an elite series 2 controller in 5 times and it was never truly fixed.
With best buys paid extended coverage, I've turned in dualsense controller twice now (I'm on my third currently) for a total of $75 USD.
I haven't been to Best Buy since I caught them jacking the prices on laptops for boxing day 'sales'... that was 10-15 years ago
haven't been to GameStop in about the same timeframe when I stopped sinking money into consoles because they were/are more expensive then pc gaming in the long run.
also haven't turned my 65inch tv on in about 2 years. it's all streaming on my desktop with pihole so clean watching.
If you have pihole, the ads would be blocked on your tv too lol
There's weirdness sometimes if devices don't respect your network's dns settings and just use their own. You can override that by forcing a dns redirect if your router supports that but not all consumer ones do unless you put openwrt or something on them.
it's not about the ads.. it's the quality of shows/movies. I honestly don't care for any of it. it's not interesting
But you can watch anything on your tv that you watch on your computer lol
Unironically, Best Buy pivoted really well into the modern market and they sell a lot of broad tech stuff at good prices. I've bought a lot of stuff including SSD's, ram, and a big 43" monitor from them with good discounts. Don't diss them till you've used them.
GameStop though, I'm still not sure how theyre in business. Mostly Nintendo physical items I think.
Best buy has been on my "one-bad-black-friday bankrupsy" bet for years, yet they seemed to have survived the death of Sears, Radioshack, Circuit City, and Frys Electronics...
For me, as a customer, they are the shop of last resort. I will go literally anywhere else because they will likely have the thing, but no specific models. If you need an SSD, RAM (lol no in todays market) or a cable they will likely have it, but its going to be a smaller range than Microcenter, if time is no object, just order exactly what you need.
The thing I will give them credit for is keeping the home theatre market, I feel that only a fool will buy a TV without physically looking at it first (they turn the blue up, just an FYI).
Look at you having a Microcenter nearby! Must be nice!
I don’t have a connection to broadcast television, channels, cable, and advertisements, and I just watch my shows by pirating. I think most of us are like that: TVs are for game consoles, or at best, a TV hooked up to a computer with YouTube on.
Come to think of it, I’ve never seen a TV showing broadcast content at my friends’ houses either.
Who the heck is keeping the TV industry profitable?
I do shop at Best Buy, usually for computer parts and accessories. Because my local alternatives for computer hardware and peripherals, AV gear etc. are Wal-Mart and maybe our increasingly pathetic Staples. Or Amazon. Best Buy is literally the only place within 20 miles to buy a GPU in a brick and mortar store.
I don't watch TV ads though. Is this chick a spokesman?
They both have some items that are semi exclusive or are better to buy from. Like if you want to buy big exercise equipment, it's easier to return it if you have a physical store. Also, online places have higher rates of counterfeit items. So there are plenty of specific reasons to buy things in person.
Counterfeit concerns, porch pirates, and also basic manufacturers warranty coverage is simpler in my opinion. I don't want to deal with cross shipping and email chains and off shore call centers when my gadget dies. I'll pay a 5% premium for that convenience.
Also shuckable hdds
The Venn diagram is a circle.