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"It is a complicated issue. It is truly a complicated issue, with a wide range of views, truly a wide range of views," Jean-Pierre said. "There is no 'yes or no' answer to this, it is complicated. There is a rule that the Department of Education [DOE] has put forward, and we're going to let that process move forward, and again, we want to make sure that while we establish guardrails with this rule, we also prevent discrimination, as well, against transgender kids. But again, a complicated issue with a wide range of views, and we respect that."

"Absolutely no reason for the Biden admin to do this," New York Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez wrote. "It is indefensible and embarrassing. The admin can still walk this back, and they should. It's a disgrace."

"Honestly, this move by Biden to push a rule on trans kids in sports is not only a backwards betrayal, it [forces] us to have to spend our time dealing with god d*** sports instead of criminal bans on our healthcare," Alejandra Caraballo, a civil rights attorney and LGBTQ+ advocate, wrote. "He could have just done nothing. This is legitimizing transphobia."

The mOsT PrOgReSsIvE Administration in History™ funny-clown-hammer "A complicated issue with a wide range of views, and we respect that" funny-clown-hammer Fuck off out of here with that "centrist" nonsense. There's nothing complicated about it, and it's not an issue unless you want to turn it into one and want to appeal to people's emotions like Republicans are doing. It was only a matter of time before they'd start throwing trans people under the bus. I guess with the coming elections it's as good a time as ever.

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[-] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago

I have a question that comes from being uneducated on the matter, and I sincerely want to be. Trans woman athlete, amab, didn't begin her transition yet. First, is it something that happens a lot, and secondly, how is allowing her to compete in female sports different from eliminating the distinction between male and female in competition?

[-] WaterBowlSlime@lemmygrad.ml 43 points 1 year ago

One thing that often gets uncritically accepted is that school sports are about competition. Remember: these are children we're talking about here. Kids play sports for community, to have fun and be part of a team.

All this fearmongering about potential advantages and statistical differences in anatomy is missing the forest for the trees. These laws are about discriminating against trans people, not about athletic fairness.

Also yeah boy/girl segregation in sports isn't scientific and largely exists for misogyny reasons (either to give women a space to compete away from men or to remove women from competition because men got butthurt about losing to them)

[-] Antiwork@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Butthurt is a term rooted in homophobia

[-] WaterBowlSlime@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 1 year ago

Thought it came from spanking? If anything it comes from domestic abuse

[-] Antiwork@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

After some quick searching I guess that’s not the root, but I just tend to avoid the term because I’ve heard it used with a homophobic intention.

[-] WaterBowlSlime@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 year ago

That's fair. To be clear, I didn't mean it that way

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

I had that exact question appear unbidden in my mind a day or two ago, funny to see it pop up right after

[-] tuga@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

That's just you

[-] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

lenin-confused tf you talking about

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

I'm not super familiar with the details, but organizations already have rules about having to be X months/years into transition before competing. At that point there's been so many changes to the body that there's no longer a meaningful difference in athletic performance from a cis athlete.

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