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[-] red_giant@hexbear.net 40 points 2 days ago

Specifies that any person has the right to defend the life of themselves or another, even by use of deadly force if necessary, from willful destruction by another person.

This would legalize the bombing of abortion clinics

[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 33 points 2 days ago

Wouldn't it also allow these same women to use lethal force on someone attempting to kill them?

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 33 points 2 days ago

no, because the point is killing women

[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 21 points 2 days ago

See at the end "who have not committed any crime punishable by death" (which they are defining seeking an abortion as being)

So no, it's a pass to kill these women while they are not entitled to violence in self-defense.

[-] mar_k@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah it honestly sounds vague and broad enough to be some kind of legal paradox

any person has the right to defend the life of themselves or another, even by use of deadly force if necessary, from willful destruction by another person.

So if I'm in public and witness John attempting to kill Jane, I now have the legal right to kill John to defend Jane's life.. but attempting to do so means John now has the legal right to kill me to defend his own life? And let's say Jane has Stockholm Syndrome and is defensive of John, she would also have the right to kill me? Which would then mean John has the right to kill Jane to defend me?

[-] Tabitha@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

even if none of that was happening, my defense for randomly blasting all three of you and everyone behind you is that I could claim you were all mutually willful destructing each other.

[-] mar_k@hexbear.net 3 points 23 hours ago

Come to think of it this technically means you should have the right to save someone on death row by killing the entire legal prosecution team, as well as anyone apart of the state execution team for administering lethal injection

[-] aanes_appreciator@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago

two men walk into the street and shoot eachother in the head simultaneously. however, one of them jerked off today. which one should face the death penalty?

I think the point is that everyone ends up dead.

[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago

or allow others to kill the authorities who are trying to kill the woman?

[-] darkcalling@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago

No because they're in the middle of committing a crime. Someone invading your home to murder you and loot your belongings doesn't have a legal right to self-defense in the middle of the crime. Neither would the women who have been criminalized as murders have a right to defend themselves.

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago

tell that to kenosha, wisconsin where an illegal possessor of a firearm who has crossed state lines to do terrorism was aquitted of murder charges

[-] Posadas@hexbear.net 16 points 2 days ago

Yeah, and you could bet your ass they'd never allow the logical conclusion of killing politicians and capitalists.

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