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Israel trying to pass the hospital bombing off as Palestine doing it is utterly disgusting and guarantees Netanyahu a spot in the deepest pit of Hell for all eternity, obviously, but do not forget that

a) the only reason why Westerners will believe it is because they want to believe it - they are not being brainwashed and this is not some masterful propaganda being weaved around us to turn kind-hearted people into monsters,

b) no Westerner opinions matter at all. In most Western countries there is no real anti-Israel option to vote for even if they did realize that Israel was a giant factory for crimes against humanity, and Westerners protesting against things in general almost never achieves anything (tens of millions protested for BLM in 2020 and not only did the situation not change, it got worse), and

c) the people whose opinions do matter (both the people in the region, and the leaders who aren't already Zionist compradors) already know that Israel is full of shit and that they just murdered nearly a thousand civilians in a single bomb attack.

It is despair-inducing to think that the genocidal Zionist entity is so brazenly, so smugly getting away with bullshitting this away into a cloud of confusion, as they release their metaphorical squid ink just like they did with the stupid babies story, but the propaganda and the media narrative that they are creating isn't what matters. It cannot address the fundamental contradictions ripping the country, the region, and the world apart any more than masterfully-applied makeup can fix a stab wound. It can merely obfuscate.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update isn't coming because I'm sick and too focussed on the collapse of the Zionist entity.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[-] Trustmeitsnotabailou@hexbear.net 70 points 1 year ago

Idiots on tiktok really think America can just flip a switch and turn what manufacturing we have into tank factories. They think tiny private ship yards can some how scale and produce survey carries.

Being told to look at ww2 for before and after tank production.

Being told that it's fine that most of the electronics for our war equipment comes from Taiwan.

[-] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Always worth remembering the US is in this current situation literaly because of the MIC contractors themselves.

At the F-35’s depots, where more complex repairs and overhauls are done, maintainers only have the ability to repair 44 of 68 core components, and the Pentagon told the GAO investigators that they don’t anticipate having the ability to do all 68 repairs until 2027.

“Three challenges—lack of prioritizing funding, heavy reliance on contractors, and lack of technical data—have affected the department’s ability to build depot maintenance capability,” the report stated.

“According to officials from one depot we visited, components needing repair come with a Depot Component Maintenance Manual,” the GAO authors wrote. “However, these manuals are ambiguous and rarely are detailed enough for depot personnel to make the repair. As a result, depot personnel not only cannot fix the part, but they cannot learn and understand how to fix the part.”

As long as the depots are limited in their ability to perform certain repairs, mission capable rates will continue to suffer, the report concluded, citing a DOD analysis. At the organizational level, where more minor repairs occur, there are problems as well.

“These challenges include insufficient and unavailable technical data (including part numbers), spare parts, support equipment, and training for maintainers,” the report stated. “In general, maintainers at all three locations we visited tied these challenges back to the limited capacity and capability of the military services’ maintenance units in conducting organizational maintenance as a result of being reliant on the contractor.”

The contractors are responsible for the supply chain, meaning the government has limited control over the flow of spare parts, and the lack of technical data like part numbers means maintainers must wait for the contractor to provide services.

F-35 maintainers at one location told us that they have access to so little technical information on the aircraft that they do not fully understand the aircraft or how to troubleshoot common problems,” the authors noted. “As a result, the maintainers frequently rely on contractor personnel for assistance in maintenance tasks they would be otherwise qualified to complete.”

Yes as if building more facilities for the MIC to milk the government with glorious Capitalist Efficiency^tm^ would improve let alone solve anything lol.

[-] Trustmeitsnotabailou@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

If it was ww3 i think the govt would just take over these companies and force the data out. Problem is going to be realizing that this chip is only made in taiwan. This metal tube is manufactured in Brazil. Etc etc.

[-] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

In WW2 even the mass produced Sherman had a huge amount of variation because the US didn't want to reign in the different companies making it. They'd have to get pretty desperate. I imagine the first thing they'll try is throwing more money at Lockheed-Martin

[-] Trustmeitsnotabailou@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

This isn't the same as not being able to repair the vehicles because the technical data isnt released. They can't even troubleshoot

[-] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

More commenting on how likely it is that the US would reign in military industry in a total war scenario. Probably won't happen until some very widely publicised disasters in field.

[-] JuryNullification@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

i think the govt would just take over these companies and force the data out

I think that’s optimistic. Sure, this would eventually happen, but it would be tied up in the courts for years because the ruling ideology that the profit motive is an ontological good is too deeply ingrained.

[-] ziggurter@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

Also, it assumes the data is just there to be had, rather than that it is buried under a monumental pile of incompetence and bureaucracy. These corporations haven't really cared in at least decades, because the cash keeps pouring in no matter what they do. So I'm guessing it isn't a simple matter of, "We have the info, but aren't willing to hand it over."

[-] Trustmeitsnotabailou@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

There would be no city tie ups. If we do go to Mass war. The war act will be enacted. The usa govt will sieze control of what it needs and there will be no challenging it

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

This government? The US government? The government in 2023?

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

i think the govt would just take over these companies

Do you think they could take over these companies?

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

I've been telling the Joint Chiefs for 30 years to scrap their stupid wonder-plane and just build hundreds of remote controlled F-16s but do they listen to me?

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

Being told to look at ww2 for before and after tank production

the conflict that the US prepared for several years beforehand at massive public organization & expenditure? the one that at the beginning of the US was the first in manufacturing and steel output? how do these figures look today? you can convert a car factory to a tank factory simply enough, but the car factory needs to be there first, the needed raw materials have to be being produced in areas that aren't strategically vulnerable first.

like it's undeniable that with the proper organization and maybe ~a decade the US definitely has the capital and natural resources to get on a domestic 'total war' footing, but said proper organization is anathema to the political and economic elite running the show. FDR was the greatest capitalist organizer of American history, it was with great difficulty he saved the capitalists from themselves. and i actually think he was dealt a much better hand than a president would have today, good fucking luck to any ghoul this gerontocracy produces for the job lmao

[-] supafuzz@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

Can you actually turn a modern car factory into a tank factory? It's easier to change what a human is doing than an assembly line of robots, and the robots are physically designed for a certain width and height range of product

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

it was my understanding that converting from car to tank (or tractor to tank) back then was no small feat either, i probably shouldn't have said 'simply', but i was trying to emphasize there aren't many factories in the US lol

[-] zephyreks@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

Somehow it's harder for the US to move their military supply chains away from Asia than it is for China to move all of their supply chains away from the West.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

you can convert a car factory to a tank factory simply enough

Can you? With all the automation and shit going on, with tools that work on aluminum and plastic?

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

i was pretending that it could be true for the point, it's at the very least easier than putting up a brand new building, but who can actually say beyond that? i don't think anyone's actually done it recently lol

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Totes fair. idk how accurate it is but I feel like a modern highly automated factory is a very different beast from a factory that relied much more on labor.

[-] volcel_olive_oil@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

the government can order the shipyards to Amazon same day delivery blob-no-thoughts

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

How viable is it for the US to hire mercenary forces if shit goes down?

[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not very viable, in old times there were many independent mercenary armies just moving from place to place until they could be hired, nowdays mercenaries are just exmembers of a countries armies that only operate inside their country of origin and end up being just an unoficial brand of the military.

So the US with PMCs its just as strong as the current US, most PMCs are just militarized police so they could be used during a civil conflict

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

old times there were many independent mercenary armies just moving from place to place until they could be hired

i can't believe they killed my roving landsknecht bands ooooooooooooooh

but actually what happened is the 'mercenary' mode of military organization from the early modern period was maintained until the French Revolution, with varying levels of state monopoly/enclosement. signing up to a regiment in a 'national' army of 1778 was nearly identical to signing a condotta, the mercenary companies were just on permanent retainer to an monarch/government. the soldatenhandel of the Holy Roman Empire (most famous/known for the Hessian regiments in the american war of independence) were when the regimental contracts were temporarily exchanged between states for sums of money.

after the French reinvented the military levy the system was mostly destroyed even when europe returned to permanent professional armies, because trusting aristocrats and 'military entrepreneurs' with the training, equipment, maintenance of units on a decentralized basis was actually very wasteful and made for ineffective armies walter-shock i think you're right, the heart of the new 'mercenaries' is about states wanting 'unoffical' paramilitaries to do shady shit, not much of a return of the old trade. oh my god i think they might technically even be public private partnerships.

what's funny is that all these forms except the original condottieri sucked. when there was actually competition between and for condotta companies, there was pressure for them to be good, and the commanders needed to be talented at finance, politics, and military matters---when they were monopolized these positive aspects mostly disappeared, but all the opportunities for waste remained. modern PMCs replicate this and are quite incompetent, but i think that's a trade that ultimately doesn't matter to the neoliberal states who just want disposable disavowable bodies to throw at things

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

the heart of the new 'mercenaries' is about states wanting 'unoffical' paramilitaries to do shady shit

Also diverting public money in to private hands, can't forget that part.

[-] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

I wonder when mercenaries changed from being outsourced military from wherever to being associated with a single country. It's hard to imagine Blackwater switching to Russian operations if the price was right, like Swiss mercenaries of yore

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

20th century mercenaries were, afaik, almost entirely ex-Nazis of various kinds sent to various colonial possessions to do war crimes on behalf of NATOstan. Since they were mercenaries folks at home mostly didn't give a shit if they died. There was also a degree of separation between the nations (or companies in a lot of cases) employing them and the mercenaries, so the crimes against humanity could be blamed on the mercs instead of landing on the nation or company itself.

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

mid-late 1600s. there were earlier attempts that didn't really stick. Landsknechts and the Reislaufer were both supposed to be inexorably bound to states, but it sort of fell through. the Swiss were made a protectorate and the French the sole client of mercenary companies under the Perpetual Peace after Marignano in 1515. this didn't quite end swiss mercenaries in other country's service though. also the Reislaufer were, in the first place "official" formations of the swiss confederacy, the actual militia formations of the cantons, that occasionally decided to lease themselves--but because they weren't really employed by the cantons on a professional basis it's kind of weird, and they'd often find themselves on both sides of a war. Landskneckts were formed as the Holy Roman-exclusive version of the Swiss, and not supposed to take contracts with other countries, the imitation was too good (and Maximillian's pockets too empty) for this to last---they were signing up with the French very soon

usually the transition is pegged to the end of the 30 year's war, but the antecedents are a bit earlier. both the Spanish and French were flush enough with cash to maintain mercenary contracts on a fairly permanent basis in the 15th-16th centuries, for elements of their forces, while still utilizing temporary contractors for individual campaigns. the nucleus of the Gendarmerie (not the police) and Tercios were organized on that pattern. the "transition" is when nearly everyone had switched the vast majority of their forces to the permanent contracts, but still through the 1700s german states were practicing a bit of mercenarism, probably until quite near when the kind napoloeone buounaparti put that state out of it's misery

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

In combat PMCs are generally worse than conventional US troops.

Also, they can't actually do anything useful. As we've seen in Ukraine massed artillery is still a defining factor in warfare. US PMCs mostly do police and death squad shit, they don't have tens of thousands of artillery pieces lying around.

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

The US actually has a lot of Abrams tank chassis lying around that could be mobilised with little effort.

As for the rest though, yeah they don't have that capacity

[-] JuryNullification@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

They would quickly run out of ammunition and all of the parts that aren’t chassis.

[-] Kaplya@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

America doesn’t need to win wars to expand and impose its imperial domination upon the world. In fact, America hasn’t won many wars since 1945 (except for that one time during the Gulf War), and yet its hegemony has only grown ever since.

Worst comes to worst? Just nuke everybody. And it takes a lot to get there because of the expanse of US military equipments, even if its production has dwindled to almost nothing.

The true power of American imperialism is financial in nature. And the greatest battle of the 21st century will be drawn on how de-dollarization will take place. So long as China/BRICS cannot find a way out of this monetary quandary, America stays winning.

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