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This is infringes on my rights as a VR-American (hexbear.net)

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[-] AlicePraxis@hexbear.net 33 points 9 months ago

It is functionally a VR headset though. You are still looking at two screens, one per eye, just like any other HMD. Those screens happen to display a high-resolution, low-latency camera feed of exactly what's in front of you, making it seem as if you are looking into the real world but you are not. With the right software those screens can display whatever you want them to.

[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

sounds like it's not AR then, proper AR is pass-through

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 23 points 9 months ago

With Apple’s Vision Pro coming out on February 2, developers have also been given notice that they can submit apps for the headset’s App Store — but have been advised to avoid using certain terms and phrases when describing them.

When you scroll to the ‘Describing your App’ section on the Submit your Apps page, Apple strongly recommends using the following naming conventions: “Refer to your app as a spatial computing app. Don’t describe your app experience as augmented reality (AR), virtual reality (VR), extended reality (XR), or mixed reality (MR).”

https://www.imore.com/vision-pro/apple-doesnt-want-developers-to-call-vision-pro-apps-vr-or-ar-despite-using-the-same-language-for-its-own-features

[-] sevenapples@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 9 months ago

god i fucking hate tech buzzwords

[-] SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago

Rewriting the description on my app to say "sPaTiAl CoMpUtInG"

[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago

i think i used to have a gameboy that did this. innovate deez nuts.

[-] StellarTabi@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago

Did they ever explain the reasoning for the preference of terms?

[-] edge@hexbear.net 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Their preferred term is "spatial computing". My guess is for two reasons

They want to present this as a different use case than VR/AR/XR. "You're not just playing around in some virtual reality, you're doing spatial computing." Basically more similar to the stuff you do on a laptop or tablet, but in 3D 360 6DoF.
They want to act like they invented something.

[-] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 7 points 9 months ago

Also, going by the reviews it's not especially good at AR/MR, and has very few VR uses. They have to come up with something to describe what it does that doesn't suggest it's just a fancy novelty toy.

[-] edge@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

VR uses will probably come up. Its M2 processor can probably handle most VR games at medium to low settings. We could be seeing first gen VR cartoony stuff like Job Simulator soon. It's an easy addition to their Arcade service too. Unless they're just too stubborn about it being purely "spatial computing" to do that.

As for AR/XR, I haven't kept up with that as much, but I don't think any headsets are especially good at it.

They have to come up with something to describe what it does that doesn't suggest it's just a fancy novelty toy.

But yeah, this is still pretty true.

[-] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

My understanding is that nobody has really cracked A/MR yet mostly due to hardware limitations. From what I've read, this thing really is the best contender so far--it has decent passthrough cameras--but there are still noticeable video artifacts and (this is probably more important) you're still basically strapping a fucking ipad to your face and carrying around a battery pack. None of this shit is going to take off until we have something that fits into at most the form factor of bulky sunglasses and allows for genuine transparency (or so close as to be unnoticeable), but whomever cracks that hardware problem very well might be the world's first trillionaire. I've said for decades now that VR will always be a niche product but true mixed reality will be just as transformative as smartphones were, and nothing I've seen recently makes me question that opinion.