putting my hand on the lathe In Dune Messiah, they're going to replace the part where Paul compares himself with Hitler, and have him quote the victims of communism propaganda. (hexbear.net)

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[-] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 42 points 8 months ago

Does Hitler even register on the scale 8000 years later after events like the Butlerian Jihad?

[-] StalinIsMaiWaifu@lemmygrad.ml 53 points 8 months ago

Not really, when Paul makes the comment the people around him have no idea what he is talking about

[-] Beaver@hexbear.net 23 points 8 months ago

As I recall it was him teaching back into his own genetic memory and recalling something that would be for the benefit of the reader, while also demonstrating the gulf between him and Stilgar

[-] axont@hexbear.net 24 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yeah this scene is Paul musing and Stilgar trying his best to keep up. It should be mentioned that at this point Stilgar is Paul's chief advisor. He's the governor of Arrakis and a highly learned man who's an expert on stuff like galactic history. He has no idea who Genghis Khan or Hitler are. He probably has no idea what Earth is. In fact, when Paul says that Genghis Khan killed 4 million people, Stilgar asks if he killed that many people with laser guns. He's confused and thinks these historical figures killed that many people by themselves.

Paul explains Hitler and Genghis Khan killed people through subordinates, Stilgar's no longer impressed because he simply doesn't get it. He can't conceive of such a distant past, but for Paul it's a very clear memory he's explored in his genetic lineage.

[-] Formerlyfarman@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago

This is a good point. I think the movies forget how alien paul is after he goes tgrough the ritual.

[-] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 21 points 8 months ago

Maybe third reich guy becomes an archetype that replaces the current roman empire guys.

[-] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 40 points 8 months ago

Rome actually existed for centuries and had a lasting impact. The Nazi guys will only ever be like Confederate lost causers.

[-] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 19 points 8 months ago

Pretty sure the Rome guys aren't in it for the impact or how long it was around, just how frequently the history channel has a WEAPONS OF ROME special.