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"ISIS" doesn't really make me think of anything Russo-Ukraine War. I feel like it should make intuitive sense to Russians that this is just US-sponsored terrorism. Is there any information about the background of the perpetrators available yet? I am curious whether they were Levantine, Central Asian, Chechen or from somewhere else in Russia. Just wondering how far CIA had to go to assemble this death squad.
They managed to take all of them alive it seems, so I'm sure we'll be finding out a lot of details in the coming weeks. Incidentally, the fact that they tried to flee also strongly suggests against the ISIS theory given that when they do terror attacks it's a one way trip.
Would that really be the case though, or is it perhaps more that most people don't bother trying to apprehend them? When those guys back in France managed to kill Charlie Hebdo, they also tried to make a run for it. The guys who conducted the Boston marathon bombing (who I think I also recall hearing they swore allegiance to ISIS? Not sure though) also tried to make a getaway. I don't know anything about Russian police tactics, but it could be they're more likely to try and apprehend mass murderers alive when possible.
Besides which, if they survive they get to conduct more terror attacks. I don't think whoever's responsible for this attack counted on them being apprehended.
More often than not, they see themselves as martyrs, but you're right it doesn't conclusively prove they're not ISIS on its own.
wikipedia (i know, i know) has this to say:
"During questioning, Dzhokhar said that he and his brother were motivated by the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, that they were self-radicalized and unconnected to any outside terrorist groups, and that he was following his brother's lead."
Disclaimer: I haven't followed this particular story very closely.
ISIS-K and American Intel have connections to say the least. It's plausible that a terrorist attack claimed by ISIS-K is also a CIA thing. I would not be surprised to find that some of the people there trained in Syria/Iraq and were active in Afghanistan. I wouldn't be surprised if there were a mix of people with similar backgrounds but different nationalities cobbled together for this relatively recently.
This is all speculation on my part of course. Just saying what wouldn't surprise me.