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All landlords are monsters that profit off of the poor and should be nuked to hell where they belong

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[-] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 43 points 8 months ago

The simple answer is yes

The nuanced answer is yes, but this person isn't really the problem. They are still profiting, ultimately, off the labor of another just by owning "capital" (quotes because a personal home isn't really capital, but it's sort of transformed into this specific case... it's weird). However in terms of scale and intent, it's different.

Scale obviously if you rent one or two rooms that's the limitation of exploitation you can participate in unless you become a full fledged capitalist and buy more homes to rent.

And intent is obviously a gray area, but looking at it in the least cynical way, the owner in this case might be struggling for whatever reason, electricity rates are high as fuck, inflation generally is up, and they might legitimately need say $400/month more income to just stay in the home. In this case that would be cheap as fuck to most people to then be able to live in a full house with a private room. This intent, in my view, is as ethical as possible for this situation. If the owner is otherwise doing fine and just wants to pocket $400/month, well, that's essentially just being a normal landlord, although still a little different since the home wasn't originally purchased with the sole purpose of profiting from renting it... so there's a lot to analyze there and my end thought is basically "this person isn't worth the time to care about even if their intentions are the worst possible case." Basically because there are much larger fish to fry. That doesn't mean I have to support it, but also hyper-focusing on some dude/family renting one room out is... not a good use of time, imo.

This still benefits the homeowner of course because they, and they alone, gain equity in the home as they pay off the mortgage more and more. If a tenant lives there for 5 years, $400/month, and moves out, the homeowner has effectively stolen $24000 from the tenant. Obviously some of that went to, perhaps, paint for walls, upkeep from increased wear and tear, but let's be honest it wasn't $24000 worth unless the tenant collapsed the fucking roof. This is why it's exploitation and the only real way around this is some sort of legal agreement that the tenant will receive their full portion of the equity if they move out. Maybe if the owner is elderly putting them in the will would be a way to do it. There's a bunch of scenarios, but if the tenant just lives there, pays, and moves one day, the owner directly benefited from someone's labor, so, still exploitation. Although this comes back to my above answer of "this is so small that it's hardly worth focusing on."

[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 30 points 8 months ago

In the revolution, your dad will have to give his second home to the renters but won't be harmed

[-] HamManBad@hexbear.net 16 points 8 months ago

Ideally, no one will be killed by the revolution except for two specific circumstances:

  1. You took up arms against the revolution either in battle or as a terrorist against the workers' Republic. Obviously the revolutionary war itself will have the most casualties

  2. You held a position of authority under capitalism and the people impacted by your authority democratically decide that you deserve the death penalty. Oil executives are probably the top of that list, and we should make a spectacle of it

Anything beyond that is an excess, in my opinion

[-] BakedBeanEnjoyer@hexbear.net 28 points 8 months ago

The nuanced answer is yes, but this person isn't really the problem.

Thank god, now I can rest easy in my 8 story luxury apartment complex that my grandfather bought me.

[-] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 8 months ago

Oh damn it looks like the clerk accidentally filed your plea for mercy under the written confessions section... your execution has been expedited. Oh no...

[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

if BakedBeanEnjoyer is charging exactly break even or at a loss for wear and tear on the appliances and carpet and that rent money isn't a net contribution to a mortgage taking depreciation into account then i don't think it would qualify as landlordism. I'd be surprised if that's the case, but one could hope.

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