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unsure why we are surprised lol
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I've not been on here long enough to know what this is about, anyone care to explain?
In case you havent been here long enough to know what a Tankie is, on top of what everyone else has shared: A Tankie is a Communist who thinks Russia and China have done nothing wrong, they'll try and make you think we call ALL communists/left leaning people Tankies, but no, the Tank part of Tankie comes from shit like Tiananmen Square where they used tanks to destroy their political opposition, and Tankies are perfectly fine with this/claim shit like Tiananmen Square is propoganda.
Tldr: Communist/Socialists/leftists who arent a fan of Russia and China's dictatorial tendencies? Not a Tankie. Communist who'll defend Russia and China to the point of thinking maybe Ukraine deserves to be invaded and that Taiwan should be absorbed by China? Tankie
Edit: Even more TL:Dr? They're the leftist version of a Nazi Brony
Edit the third: Tankies, downvotes by you hold as much meaning as a downvote on youtube does.. I saw the downvote count go from 1-6 in 15 minutes so you could make it look like as much people disagreed with me as agreed
Ah, that makes quite a lot of sense! Thank you!
The ml stands for Marxist Leninist. Basically, it means the admins of an instance ending in ml has been some revolting politics.
It actually stands for "Mali".
I understand that, but there's a reason they chose that domain, and that's why.
Its bc its cheap iirc, the second meaning was a plus tho im sure
And not just Marxist Leninism, but revanchist Marxist Leninism which denies the wrongdoing of not only Stalin and Mao but also Putin and Xi entirely and blames anything that happened in history or present on the West.
ie. Tankies.
I wouldn't really have much problem with them if they were Marxist Leninist and still acknowledged history and reality. Unfortunately that's not the case.
We acknowledge history and reality. Calling all of us Tankies is such a cop out. Putin bad, Xi is pretty chill comparatively speaking to Putin. Lemmy.ml is a beacon of free speech and ideas compared to Lemmygrad and hexbear, where i have had multiple comments deleted when I wrote well thought put arguments around voting for the lesser of 2 evils to be the best course of action to protect the Prolitariat while forming the Class Conciousness necessary for any sort of true Marxist society to form. Yall calling anyone left of Democratic Socialist is reactionary af.
Beacon of free speech? That's not only a huge stretch, I'm gonnq say thats bullshit altogether, go look at the modlog and you might change your mind. They delete and ban people for having different opinions, even when they have sources and evidence.
Not in my experience. I've had 100% factual comments that include links to widely respected sources deleted with no explanation.
Lemmy.ml isn't even communist, that's just a mask for their authoritarian propaganda. I respect communists and I hate Lemmy.ml
This doesn't match the reality I've experienced there unfortunately. And I did give it the good old college try before giving up.
See a lot of us who frequently call out Tankies dont consider YOU a Tankie if what you state your opinions about Putin and Xi are true. A LOT of us are sick of people who supposedly care about oppressed classes sucking off dictators though.
I still can't stop associating ml with machine learning first π
I assumed that's what it stood for because it was listed as hosting tech-focused communities.
Yup, same. Well, half a year later I found out the hidden truth π and keep forgetting it every time, still
Also, "Marxism-Leninism" as a term was coined by Stalin, but there's a reason people avoid the term "Stalinism", because even these people understand that his horrific legacy can't be revised.
So whenever you hear the term, you can understand that it's basically Stalinism papered over with the names of dead men who couldn't object to him puppeteering them and coopting their legacy to lend legitimacy to his reign of terror.
I thought it meant machine learning :(
In short, it is politics.
Lemmy.ml is full of socialists! Edit: really
I wish.
I love socialism and keep engaging but all too often itβs people glorifying dictators.