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[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 68 points 7 months ago

It could also kick off a much larger conflict (unless America pulls an America and just abandons Israel entirely because it's inconvenient zelensky-pain )

[-] CommunistBear@hexbear.net 79 points 7 months ago

America abandoning Israel would be a victory in and of itself

[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 59 points 7 months ago

That's exactly what I think would happen. Ukraine has eaten up the surplus of the things we'd need to fight a protracted war against Iran. The US Navy's urgent priority is East Asia and they barely have the ability to cover that in peacetime. Support for Israel is becoming increasingly unpopular with the electorate, while Zionist liberals have been so weird and disgusting that I would never consider voting for a John Fetterman or Bernie Sanders. Only the US Marines are currently reaching their recruiting goals, and the first month of that war is going to produce drone videos that immediately turn off potential volunteers.

Iran would be such a serious near-peer war at such a bad time that I don't see the US being baited into a general invasion to support Israel. Maybe they're stupid enough but that's the kind of war that would break the empire.

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 38 points 7 months ago

that's the kind of war that would break the empire

lathe-of-heaven

[-] Sphere@hexbear.net 28 points 7 months ago
[-] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 37 points 7 months ago

I always laughed at the US invading Iran. There is just no way America could actually take Iran in any way. The hills of Afghanistan turn into the mountains of Iran. Tehran is a fortress pretty much. There is no victory there, only dumbfuck Americans getting owned by a mountainside ambush.

[-] TheLastHero@hexbear.net 36 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Iran has the IRGC, an entire branch of the military dedicated to asymmetric combat. The Yankees would be getting fucked before they even landed and then every step of the way towards Tehran. If it was even possible to take Tehran the Iranians wouldn't just give up either. It would be a historical farce if it wasn't for the inevitable destruction the Americans would cause.

[-] invo_rt@hexbear.net 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

In the event of an open conflict, Iran will mine the absolute fuck out of the Straight of Hormuz which is where about 40% of the entire world's oil supply moves through. It would devastate the global economy.

[-] Ericthescruffy@hexbear.net 28 points 7 months ago

....Are we in world war 3 right now?

[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 33 points 7 months ago

We're definitely in the cool zone, but two superpowers directly fighting would be my criteria for WW3.

[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago

We’ll know it’s started when it becomes the real hot zone real quick and then immediately transitions into the pretty cool for the next few hundred years zone

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 7 months ago

The global tension meter is at 90%

[-] Rx_Hawk@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68786054.amp

"As I told Prime Minister [Benjamin] Netanyahu, our commitment to Israel's security against these threats from Iran and its proxies is ironclad - let me say it again, ironclad,"

I mean just 2 days ago he doubled down. I think Israel is too much of a strategic asset for the US to abandon it. Also,

https://hexbear.net/comment/4776790

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