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Can anyone explain ?
Cannabis sativa is the same plant for every single strain of cannabis in existence, as well as hemp. The meme is pointing out how we talk about sativa, indica, and hybrids as completely different plants, rather than variations of the same species
But each strain is different, right? Like how a chihuahua and a German shepherd are both dogs, but vastly different.
Yes, the different strains absolutely have some differences, and I'm not trying to say it's all bullshit. Weed is awesome, and we should document new stuff as it comes along, but we need to remember that it's all a single plant. I'd say weed is like the apple of drugs
Yes. Some strains smell like a baby just shit kn a diaper and some smell like a fresh cut mango mixed with some pine needles lol. Flavor also vastly different! It’s a wonderful plant to explore
This is incorrect. Cannabis is the family designation where Sativa, Indica and Ruderalis are the species designations.
This is debated. But this string is an explanation of recent debate. Whether it’s all sativa or there are the three sub species. I prefer the sub species route myself.
What do you mean by "same plant"? They are different species.
They are the same species by the scientific definition. The meaning of the word "species" has become diluted over time as it was adopted by more people and misused, just like all language.
Seems there there is very much a debate about it and they are either considered seperate species, subspecies or a single one.
There's really no debate about it.
No, they're not. Industrial hemp is also Cannabis sativa.
Wikipedia: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis)
Species[1]
Taxonomy is difficult, and we're still figuring it all out.
I would, however, point out that the specific page on Cannabis sativa lists them as subspecies. So, it appears there isn't even consensus on Wikipedia.
In mycology one will hear references to 'lumpers' and 'splitters' taxonomically. That is, do we lump these specimens together, or do we split them into difference groupings. When we look at the genetics, it has been the case that we find that those critters that appear similar may not be those that are related by genes/ evolution. And of course by "we" I mean the larger scientific community, not me and the mouse in my pocket. Oh wait, that's not a mouse it's a shrew. ;-)
My point exactly. That's why I find it a bit strange that the post and some comments here act like it's a certainty.
Standard middle school definition of species is applicable here. If they can breed and their offspring is fertile, they're the same species.
QED, Spock is sterile.
And here I was thinking about looking into some of the papers for the actual reasons ... but turns out those stupid scientists just wasted their time because they forgot about middle school. Fools!
I kind of thought the Spock thing would convey I wasn't 100% serious in my reply to a weed shitpost.
I think the confusion is that there are two well-known subgroups of cannabis sativa, indica and sativa (ruderalis is more obscure). So the species and subgroup have the same name, to the consternation of indica lovers.
It may also be referential to the greater indica/sativa internet drama, there are fierce disputes about the differences or lack thereof. The confusion is amplified due to the lack of quality control in cannabis genetics and sales, and most strains are hybrids between the two (or three)
As I read it, it’s basically saying there’s only one kind of red wine: red. You’re right, but you’re ignoring all of the subcategories that the typical consumers use to talk about it.
Weed smokers typically consider strains to be either Indica or Sativa, but there’s a whole debate about if those are real differences at all. The plant itself is called Cannabis Sativa, hence why this statement is true.
The plant's family is Cannabis. The plant's species is either Indica, Ruderalis or Sativa.
The post is wrong.
Cannabis is the family, while Indica, Sativa and Ruderalis are the species.
The part directly above the species is the genus. Family comes after that, and is Cannabaceae in this case.
Yeah but the original cannabis indica described has none of the physical characteristics of what it does today, there is not a genetic difference between sativa and indica that is sold in the cannabis market today.