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[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

Cannabis sativa is the same plant for every single strain of cannabis in existence, as well as hemp. The meme is pointing out how we talk about sativa, indica, and hybrids as completely different plants, rather than variations of the same species

[-] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 5 months ago

But each strain is different, right? Like how a chihuahua and a German shepherd are both dogs, but vastly different.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

Yes, the different strains absolutely have some differences, and I'm not trying to say it's all bullshit. Weed is awesome, and we should document new stuff as it comes along, but we need to remember that it's all a single plant. I'd say weed is like the apple of drugs

[-] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

Yes. Some strains smell like a baby just shit kn a diaper and some smell like a fresh cut mango mixed with some pine needles lol. Flavor also vastly different! It’s a wonderful plant to explore

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Cannabis sativa is the same plant for every single strain of cannabis in existence

This is incorrect. Cannabis is the family designation where Sativa, Indica and Ruderalis are the species designations.

[-] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This is debated. But this string is an explanation of recent debate. Whether it’s all sativa or there are the three sub species. I prefer the sub species route myself.

[+] tobogganablaze@lemmus.org -15 points 5 months ago

What do you mean by "same plant"? They are different species.

[-] RadicalEagle@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

They are the same species by the scientific definition. The meaning of the word "species" has become diluted over time as it was adopted by more people and misused, just like all language.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

No, they're not. Industrial hemp is also Cannabis sativa.

[-] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 8 points 5 months ago

Wikipedia: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis)

Species[1]

Cannabis sativa L.
Cannabis indica Lam.
Cannabis ruderalis Janisch

Taxonomy is difficult, and we're still figuring it all out.

[-] valaramech@fedia.io 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I would, however, point out that the specific page on Cannabis sativa lists them as subspecies. So, it appears there isn't even consensus on Wikipedia.

[-] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 2 points 5 months ago

In mycology one will hear references to 'lumpers' and 'splitters' taxonomically. That is, do we lump these specimens together, or do we split them into difference groupings. When we look at the genetics, it has been the case that we find that those critters that appear similar may not be those that are related by genes/ evolution. And of course by "we" I mean the larger scientific community, not me and the mouse in my pocket. Oh wait, that's not a mouse it's a shrew. ;-)

[-] tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 5 points 5 months ago

My point exactly. That's why I find it a bit strange that the post and some comments here act like it's a certainty.

[-] TheTetrapod@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago

Standard middle school definition of species is applicable here. If they can breed and their offspring is fertile, they're the same species.

QED, Spock is sterile.

[-] tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 7 points 5 months ago

Standard middle school definition of species is applicable here

And here I was thinking about looking into some of the papers for the actual reasons ... but turns out those stupid scientists just wasted their time because they forgot about middle school. Fools!