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[-] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 33 points 4 months ago

Do you really think "cult" is a useful category/descriptor here?

My view: things identified as "cults" have a bunch of good traits. EA should, where possible, adopt the good traits and reject the bad ones, and ignore whether they're associated with the label "cult" or not.

Yes, this is real

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Not only is this real, I think this is a paraphrase of a thing Yud wrote. Which makes it even cultier. (A reason why I called the Rationalismsphere a cult incubator, as their teachings make you more susceptible to getting into cults).

Edit: For example on his writing on cults, and more 'Every Cause Wants To Be A Cult'. (Look Cade Metz is referenced, before they turned on him)

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Nobody:

EA: Scientology has some good traits, we should copy them.

[-] dgerard@awful.systems 12 points 4 months ago
[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 12 points 4 months ago

“Look, all I’m saying is that Scientology managed to scale massively, both in members and funding! There’s obviously something there that we can learn from!”

[-] o7___o7@awful.systems 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Fuck me...I mean, say what you want about the tenets of Effective Altruism, Dude. At least it's an ethos!

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