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Thomas Matthew Crooks: The registered Republican and gun lover who shot Trump
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I suggest checking the last ~6-12 months of his 4chan history. Key word searches to try: "Trump Zionist" "Kushner" "Fuentes"
I suppose on the positive side, probably some of the clammiest, palest groypers in existence will be getting some door knocks in coming weeks and months.
On the extremely negative side, if the guy is 100% confirmed a groyper and his motive is anything in the realm of "Trump supports Israel" or whatever... ain't gonna be good for future anti-Zionist movements.
Not that the future was ever bright considering how they've reacted to peaceful sit-ins. But yeah, anything groyper related and against Israel (for explicitly antisemitic reasons) will be lumped with anti-imperialism/anti-genocide related resistance to Israel. Very convenient packaging to barrel right past the unavoidable truth of the peaceful nature thus far of anti-Zionist moments. Yes it's totally nonsensical, but if it aids Zionist narratives that both parties share, it's too tempting.
Apparently the shooter said the following in his twitter bio before it got scrubbed: "on a mission from God (cross emoji) to end Epstien's evil empire"
If you're telling the truth then I called it last night when I said the shooter was a disillusioned QAnon-Head mad at Trump. I mean it's easy to guess because they're the only ones who are armed and do adventurism.
lmao a lot of us joked about it it, I didn't think that'd actually be the case
Reality itself is unserious, it seems
Something similar was my first though when I read the news this morning. QAnon has fractured in some bizarre and spectacular ways since Jan 6th especially and there's any number of reasons some of those rabbit-holed spin-offs don't like Trump now
Trump's own little monsters now coming for zaddy.
Ah then I was right, Q-Head.
I wonder if the media is going to bury this story because of Epstein?
so he did have an internet presence...?
Very little and all of it is been currently scrubbed clean.
How recently do we think it was scrubbed?
Good question and sadly I have no answer yet. However, it is a matter of time that most of us get answers.
I was seeing a ton of fake stuff posted trying to frame him as like antifa and such last night, so I will stand by waiting for more on that type of stuff before really forming opinions on it.
Same here and that made me very uneasy due to the readiness for violence that people with neonazi views have.
pretty clearly faked, check the Epstein reddit, top comments sleuthed out the fact it has 0 posts, photoshopped the shooter's face onto a different pic, etc
Could you share the post here? I checked this https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/new/ sub and it has nothing within these two days.
it was removed by mods https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/comments/1e2x2c4/trump_shooter_was_on_a_quest_to_end_epsteins_evil/
Interesting! Here it is: @RedWizard@hexbear.net @Jenniferrr@hexbear.net
Btw, thanks for sharing Crispy!
Whatever image you posted was removed
😞 oh well... That image was the evidence that I had.
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A linked tweet in that thread says the account was created in September 2022
they changed their name on insta so I doubt it’s him. Also they use a picture that looks like a lookalike (protected twitter, guy in blue shirt)
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It's unclear right now if that's a real account, from what I saw.
Where did you see that?
I saw this in a discord that I am currently in and I am currently asking for a screenshot to see if I can share it here. People are working hard to scrub data from this shooter.
Any evidence of this? Very interesting
I saw this in a discord that I am currently in and I am waiting for a screenshot to see if we can analyze it here.
Thanks! You are awesome!
I guess I'm out of the loop on this. It makes sense upon reading it however. So the theory is, based on your analysis, that because he was off mainstream social media, and associated with gun culture that he was likely on the neo-nazi pipeline.
This pipeline involving an antisemitic anti-zionist framework, that believes support for Israel is support for white genocide in effect. Is this a widely held view among groypers?
To the last part, yes, basically. They hate Israel because (this is me summing up a lot of disconnected "ideologies" from them):
-Israel is Jewish. -They hate Jews. -Zionist=Judaism.
Some of them, although all this stuff is very disjointed, believe that Trump is like a "Jewish puppet" (they will sometimes substitute Zionist with the intention of meaning Jewish. They do not distinguish a difference. All Jews are Zionists loyal to Israel to them. Classic antisemitic stuff). His son in law, Jared Kushner, was in charge of a lot of foreign policy stuff in the Middle East including the treaty that was meant to full solidify the alliance and support from the surrounding Arab countries like Saudi Arabia with Israel. This was interrupted by partly 1) Trump losing re-election but mostly 2) recent Palestinian resistance starting on Oct 7 last year. The groypers see this as Kushner, who is Jewish, manipulating Trump or Trump working in cooperation with "the Jews", however they want to frame it, to sell out America to the "the Jews" and "the Arabs." They see America as a place that should be only white people, which apparently now includes Hispanic whites and not just anglo/germanic whites (crazy developments are emerging in Nazi ideology), and has no Jews, they belong in Israel, which the US should have no role in supporting (or killing the Jews outright, again, depending on the relative insanity), no black people, brown skinned Hispanic, Latino, no indigenous, no Asians... you get get gist. Typical Nazi stuff.
But yeah the hangup with them specifically is Trump/US support of Israel and their deep racist hatred of Jews. It's basically like if the racist republicans were fully ideologically consistent in their racism... you get a groyper who wants absolutely nothing to do with Jews or anything even associated with Judaism.
Some of them do hesitantly, lightly support Trump btw. I believe Fuentes has been on record as supporting Trump as sort of a means to an end transitional figure. He said something like "we elect Trump twice and then we have no more elections" like he will form an actual empire, dissolve the republic, Rome style, and then the next person will be a "based anti-Jewish groyper." Or whatever.
Now I must go shower.
So groypers think of Trump like we think of Bernie. Except Trump won.
I understand the comparison there, but I gotta reject it based on the implied (or direct?) comparison between groypers, who explicitly want to do genocide, to "bernie bros" and further left who want crazy things like free healthcare for all, improved material conditions for the poor, ending or least heavily drawing down US imperialism, etc.
And with groypers, they are so comically "evil" in their espoused beliefs that it is pretty easy to just go "oh, no. No no no. Fuck that entire group." And yeah yeah everyone is a product of their environment and material conditions, including those losers, but so were the Nazis. So I can simultaneously lament the fact they are lost to darkness, while also knowing their existence is a threat to the lives of a lot of people I care about and probably me too as a "traitor"
I just don't like making these comparisons because you end up with like "so Stalin was like Hitler, but with a different ideology?" Ok. Maybe. But what were their ideologies? One was pure evil and one was good.
I'm not saying that was your intent, but that's why I don't accept those comparisons. "Somethings are good and somethings are bad" logic applies.
I was just thinking of a groyper posting “Trump was the compromise” and wasn’t sure how to get the idea across