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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by CyborgMarx@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

This is no honeymoon, the American "left" will never recover from the Harris/Walz combo; every major base of support (demographic/economic) is covered; Black woman with a jovial heartlandish white man standing behind her is the universal password for the legendary "competent American fascism" software update leftists have been prophesying.

They got this shit locked for at least eight years, Walz is suburbanite catnip and Harris has the identity libs eating out her hands, along with big tech, wallstreet, and the zionist lobby who are now methodically eliminating the last holdouts of the post-2016 nascent left movement

There is no credible avenue of leverage here, the libs can effectively respond to any leftist utterance with accusations of racism, misogyny, and purity testing and it will stick. Already we have most liberals being one rhetorical step away from defending Walz unleashing the National Guard on BLM protesters

There is no point in engaging with domestic national politics at this current time, the ball is firmly overseas

The only series of events that can undermine this new DNC paradigm is Israel blowing up the world and the US mobilizing to save it. Not even the collapse of Ukraine can dent it now, since that was "Biden's project"

Hate to say it, but the DNC won a firm generational victory

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[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago

The threat of Trumps return has a strong pacifying effect. The Palestinian encampment feel like the only major protest that happened under Biden, there were several police violence incidents under him but almost not BLM activity.

I think that's less to do with Trump and more to do with BLM being largely consumed by the Dems. We're still seeing Cop City protests and whatnot, but people are also getting killed over it while Libs look the other way and Dems pour more money into policing. Maybe protests are becoming less palatable as people realize its direct action that gets things done, but i dunno, could just as easily be people are giving up.

[-] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago

Part of the reason that Dem capture worked though is how many "progressives" and "succs" softened their view on the DNC once Trump was in power. I saw it unfold in every moderate left space I saw, things went from "the Dems suck but we have to vote for them strategically" to "we can push them left once Trump is out" to "OMG BIDEN IS MORE PROGRESSIVE THAN OBAMA!"

And once Biden was in office that shit faded a bit a year or so into his presidency, but then reared it's head again once we started getting closer to the next election.

It probably isn't going to matter any way, the western left will most likely continue to be an absolute joke, but if I had to place a bet I would say the western left would actually have very slightly better odds under the DNC.

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