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Do dummies actually think she's more "radical" than Biden? Maybe if we beg madam hard enough she'll give us healthcare! 
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It does make me wonder why folks like that protest at Harris events but not Trump events, given what Trump has said about how he'd handle Palestine.
They think they can maybe sway Harris/the dems in general. Not unreasonable, seeing as IIRC they stand to potentially lose Michigan due to its (relatively) large muslim community which will likely have reduced turnout if her policies stay the same.
There is no convincing Trump or the repubs. Their voter base LOVES genocide. The only people who aren't onboard are some of the more extreme neo-nazis, who only disagree because they hate jews (I note here that Israel is not representative of all jews, and to claim so is anti-semitic, but these are neo-nazis) more than they hate muslims.
Sway them into what? A Trump victory?
Edit: Oh okay. You think these protestors can stop Harris from funding Israel. But any leftist who points out how pointless it is to convince neoliberals to not do neoliberal things is... a neoliberal?
Don't think of it from a harm-reduction mindset. If YOU don't vote for somebody against genocide, then YOU lose to Trump. It's not on us for having a sense of what is right/wrong in the world.
I didn't say genocide was on you. Who here has said that??
And why shouldn't people view this in terms of harm reduction? The women in my life are scared shitless about a federal abortion ban, meanwhile so many leftist men I know completely ignore the abortion side of things and would sooner drape themselves in the Palestinian flag.
Hang on a second, if you're going to talk about the victims of the abortion ban, then it's only logically consistent to talk about the Palestinians being genocided, or the Palestinians whose families have bombs dropping on them. Comparing the victims of the abortion ban with not the victims of the genocide, but the people protesting it is being entirely deceptive.
So tell me, what of the Palestinians who have bombs dropping on them or on their families in Gaza; do you think they're not scared shitless? Do you think they're less scared than the women in your life?
What that individual is trying to say, but is too much of a coward to say it with their chest, is: The loss of life of a Palestinian is less concerning to me than the pain a white woman might endure.
Now the scared yanks have two options:
I: continue getting their rights taken away by the abusive system they worship
A: Turn on the system that betrayed them and work towards its destruction
I was in that situation once, I took option A.
what spin doctor horseshit. If Amerikan women are cosigning genocide, then they're not my countryfolk, that's just the opps at that point. If you're going to position the comfort of Amerikan women versus the VERY LITERAL LIVES OF A SOVEREIGN NON-WHITE PEOPLE, then you deserve worse than what Gaza is getting. Genocide. Is not. An option.
It is entirely deceptive of this person to compare the victims in one case not versus the victims of the other, but the people protesting it. He knows if he compares the victims of the abortion ban versus an entire nation of people being starved to death and having bombs dropped on them the answer is fairly straightforward, so instead he compares the former with protesters against genocide. I can't even tell if this person knows they're being deceptive or if liberal brainworms are just this bad.
Nah, they know. I know they know because their last-ditch effort to vootshame invokes the age-old "none of you are actually Black or brown" peckerwood 4channer defense. Which is uniquely fucking horrific on its face, because it implies that they fundamentally can't envision why any white Amerikan would sooner show solidarity to the victims of genocide rather than the perpetrators, aides, and abettors.
And of course, y'know they were froggy to reply to everybody else, but I give them a yacht's worth of verifiably-Black critique of the candidate for Misleader-in-Chief and all a sudden it's crickets for an hour.
The internet made slavemasters way too comfortable with preaching genocide and colonialism and not getting capped for it.
EDIT: Two hours of a wait and they say NOTHING OF WORTH. No response to the critique given, just invoking hysteria to get around their fuckup. The master race, y'all...