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That Yamcha reference.
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i dunno i've been playing Sparking Zero recently and they have made a point to show Yamcha getting rolled by.....
i would not call the man who loses to plants 'strong' he is objectively weak in the Dragon Ball universe of fighters and isn't even the top non Saiyan/Alien Z-Fighter, even accounting for the fact that most citizens of planet Earth have like a powerlevel of like 10.
The Saibamen are canonically as strong as Raditz, power level 1200. Plus, everyone always forgets this, but Yamcha actually beat that Saibaman initially - he just didn't kill it, allowing it to surprise him and self destruct. So Yamcha is, at the very least, on the level of an average Saiyan warrior after his training with Mr Popo.
The normal human power rankings are something like Roshi > Tien > Krillin > Yamcha > Videl > Chi-Chi > Hercule > Everyone Else
Hercule > Everyone Else
Hah! That means there are still billions of Earthlings weaker than him!
Now if only they'd let Tien do anything cool again
No way Roshi is stronger than those guys after they trained with King Kai
In Dragon Ball Super Roshi gets back on training and levels up to be on par with the strongest fighters from other universes, which is why I ranked him there. During Z he's totally rusty and can't even hang with Dr Wheelo's goons - although he is stated to be immortal, and that counts for something.
Post Tournament of Power training, maybe. That def skews it; 'cause now Roshi is the closest human to UI (according to Beerus and Whis iirc at least)
they're a powerful race of unstable alien plant dudes that freeza's soldiers carry around as backup because they're really strong
they're literally as strong as cell himself, they just don't seem to be as refined in technique
that means that until gohan got big mad they were roughly tied for strongest lifeform the universe had ever seen (until later arcs retconned that)
Come now, he's like the third strongest human, and the strongest (Krillin) said at the time that he would have been killed by the saibaman kamikaze too if he wasn't alerted to it by Yamcha's death. Also, it's not like that is in the same dimension as where he is by the end of Z, let alone where he gets in Super, since Dragon Ball is the worst media in the world when it comes to "number go up" power creep.