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[-] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 57 points 3 weeks ago

jfc, the way dems roll over isn't even funny anymore.

[-] BabyTurtles@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago

Trump has already threatened his family. It's a privilege to fight for your ideals when you get to stay anonymous and not have your loved ones directly targeted by powerful people, you don't have to face the same kind of consequences. I can't really blame him for not wanting his wife and kids in immediate danger.

[-] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 44 points 3 weeks ago

No. It is his privilege to abandon ideals at the whims of capital.

[-] BabyTurtles@hexbear.net -1 points 3 weeks ago

Would you put your children in front of a firing squad just to say "Well I at least stand firm in my ideals"?

[-] REgon@hexbear.net 26 points 3 weeks ago

You are here presenting the situation as if it was a sudden development, rather than a known risk from the start. You are also presenting it as a definite certainty.
Neither of these presentations are correct.

[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 23 points 3 weeks ago

If he believed in his ideals he would've finished this months ago and actually arrested trump instead of using it as a campaign talking point then giving up

[-] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Time it on the day of his withdrawal for maximum effect.

I will no longer be seeking reelection, which leaves me free to do what the QAnon people always wanted — military tribunal time! biden-rember

[-] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 18 points 3 weeks ago

My child is already in danger due to the dictatorship of capital. I don't get the luxury or privilege of making a minor work decision to save them.

[-] BabyTurtles@hexbear.net 0 points 3 weeks ago

You neatly sidestepped the question. Capitol puts everyone in danger, that isn't special. Would you do the special honors of placing your child in front of a firing squad if it meant you could say that you stood firm in your ideals?

[-] REgon@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

And you are sidestepping multiple responses highlighting the flaws in your presented argument

[-] BabyTurtles@hexbear.net 1 points 3 weeks ago

I'm ignoring them because aren't good faith? I didn't say "Jack Smith is literally in this situation", I'm just pointing out how easy it is for armchair revolutionaries to snear from the sidelines when it's not their necks on the line.

[-] REgon@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That you dislike an answer does not make it bad faith

[-] BabyTurtles@hexbear.net 1 points 3 weeks ago

I found yours, yours is just like gibberish.

You are here presenting the situation as if it was a sudden development, rather than a known risk from the start. You are also presenting it as a definite certainty. Neither of these presentations are correct.

No, risk is a spectrum, like everything. The level of risk changes based on the situation. Jack found it to be an acceptable level of risk, the situation changed, the risk got higher, and it was no longer acceptable to him.

I was presenting a hypothetical situation where risk was the absolute maximum because I want people to use their heads and think about it, and maybe break out of the snearing circlejerk bubble for a second.

[-] REgon@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

Talk about bad faith lol

[-] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yes

Now go touch grass

[-] Hexboare@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not a war crimes prosecutor? Pretty sure you're doing that by taking the job

[-] REgon@hexbear.net 26 points 3 weeks ago

I can. Don't take on the gig of prosecuting a powerful politician who might become president if you aren't in a position where you're comfortable with having you and yours threatened. It's like the cop excuse of being in a "stressful situation". Don't take the job then!

[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 22 points 3 weeks ago

Charlie Brown could never have predicted that Lucy would pull away the football again this time

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago

trump has threatened many families who can't resist and will get rolled over too.

[-] BabyTurtles@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

Like the anonymous Jane Doe lawsuit from the woman who wasremovedd by Trump when she was 14? She dropped it after numerous threats from Trump and her supporters and I don't blame her at all. I don't expect Jane Doe to put her and her families life on the line either.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

exactly. the person that CAN defend himself and other people who cannot, is being a big coward isnt he.

[-] landlords_morghulis@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

The whole point was trying to hurt his candidacy; now that's over...

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