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I hate it. Why is my family so insufferable? Why can't I be open with them? I want to scream my fear. My anguish. I am wine drunk btw (certainly unrelated).

I want so desperately for them to understand. Y'all feel me? This shit is ass.

How do I express my disillusionment in a way that does not trigger their internalized propaganda response?

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[-] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 6 hours ago

I remember what Amy Goodman said that people who are stuck in ideas that are basically insane are just 'good media consumers'. Or to paraphrase Marx the ideas of any society are in any epoch the ideas of the ruling class'

It's hard to talk to people who are calcified in an ideology created by the oligarchy, so just dance around it. Don't try to change their minds cause it won't work. Maybe just pick at the edges - point out the contradictions, how nobody has money anymore except for the 1%?

[-] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 4 points 4 hours ago

Don't try to change their minds cause it won't work. Maybe just pick at the edges - point out the contradictions

I would bet they are disillusioned as well. That's the crack to wedge open. They will want to vent, and we should let them, while also carefully (even cryptically) nudge ideas that parallel their frustrations.