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Image is Israeli interceptors trying and failing to intercept missiles over their cities.


Israel just carried out a widespread bombing of Iran, which has killed a number of senior officials inside Iran (though it seems the leadership is more-or-less intact) as well as a number of civilians. Important facilities have been targeted, but the amount of damage is unknown so far (note that many important Iranian facilities are deep underground, making them both hard to damage but also hard to determine if they are damaged from just satellite imagery, so reports of damage will be he-said-she-said).

It appears the attack took Iran by surprise, given that a residential block was targeted that contained some senior officials - if one saw an attack coming, one would imagine they'd be in bunkers. Nonetheless, like the rest of the Resistance Axis, I suspect that Iran has adapted their military structures to be resistant to decapitation strikes by ensuring that replacement figures are ready to take the place of killed officials.

Iran has delivered a massive missile barrage in response to Israeli aggression, even though Israel is continuing to bomb Iran. Iran is now aware of the location of many important Israeli sites, including secret nuclear sites, due to their recent intelligence haul, giving them a distinct edge.


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https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
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https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
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https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

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[-] smokeppb@hexbear.net 12 points 25 minutes ago* (last edited 23 minutes ago)

I've seen rumors of China discretely sending a cargo plane to Iran, maybe weapons. These are just rumors, but it might make sense for China to ignore deterrence that a public show of force would bring and instead only boost Iran when it deems necessary to keep them afloat. After all, US and Israel are not getting deterred by anything, but China's own geopolitical position is at stake if this war goes south for Iran at any point.

[-] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 2 points 2 minutes ago

Was a result of GNSS jamming and electronic warfare messing with transponder data from the plane, it didn't enter Iranian airspace.

[-] cinnaa42@hexbear.net 4 points 7 minutes ago

@MenchOsint on twitter debunked at least one claim of a Chinese cargo plane going to Iran. Not sure about others.

[-] OnceUponATimeInWeHo@hexbear.net 14 points 45 minutes ago

From an Iranian telegram:

“ 🔶Stop the stupidity

🔸In a war situation and a situation where Iran must simultaneously deal with a multitude of infiltrating forces in the heart of its land, the official media and the government still insist on making the situation seem normal!

🔸The country's conditions are not normal and what is needed today is firm and decisive measures. Evacuating office buildings, closing all non-essential centers, institutions and organizations until further notice, deploying large-scale ground and security forces in cities, establishing constant drone patrols and imposing restrictions on movement are the definitive needs of today.

🔸We cannot welcome the dangers by playing tents and talking nonsense on national television. Iran is at a historic crossroads. What we do today will determine the fate of the nation, government and land of Iran.

🔸The situation is not normal and under control! Stop pretending and take the necessary steps immediately.

Archivist @Partisan2015”

https://t.me/partisan2015/82030

[-] fever@hexbear.net 2 points 39 minutes ago

It's not that bad. It's not even remotely as bad as the Iran-Iraq war.

[-] OnceUponATimeInWeHo@hexbear.net 10 points 37 minutes ago* (last edited 30 minutes ago)

Going to wait a few days for US involvement. Given the amount of internal sabotage and infiltration that’s become apparent since Haniyeh, I don’t blame them for calling for more aggressive action.

Wait obviously it’s not as bad as a 7 year land invasion where Iranians were gassed. It’s been less than a week. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure

[-] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 27 points 1 hour ago

Coming at 4,000 comments like a Fattah-1 coming for Tel Aviv…

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 11 points 47 minutes ago* (last edited 44 minutes ago)

Al Jazeera

Trump says ‘possible’ US ‘could get involved’ in Israel-Iran conflict

We have more comments from Trump – this time from an interview to ABC News. The US president said “it’s possible we could get involved” in the ongoing conflict between Israel and Iran. Trump added that the US is “not at this moment involved” in the conflict. He also said he would be “open” to Russian President Vladimir Putin being a mediator. “He is ready. He called me about it. We had a long talk about it,” Trump told ABC.

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I scrolled down and saw this. "Many calls and meetings" - Hmm.... he's playing golf?

Trump’s comments come as US coy on diplomatic moves

In a social media post, Trump said that “many calls and meetings” are taking place to de-escalate the situation between Iran and Israel. That’s the first we’re hearing of it because the administration has not been willing to say publicly what it has been doing from a diplomatic standpoint. All we know is that in recent days, the US did ratchet down its diplomatic presence in countries in the region, anticipating that these air strikes on Iranian military sites would be taking place.

And we also know that the US military did put its forces on a slightly higher alert posture just in case things were to spiral out of control. That said, the US government is not interested in seeing this conflict between Israel and Iran escalate. A US State Department spokesperson told reporters on Saturday that even though the Sunday talks in Oman between the US and Iran were scrapped because of the ongoing conflict, the US is still hopeful that these negotiations on Iran’s nuclear programme can continue and the US is prepared to engage.

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[-] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 27 points 1 hour ago

🇮🇷🇮🇱| IRNA: It has been confirmed that the most recent wave of Israeli attacks in Tehran was carried out with 5 planted explosives and car bombs

https://xcancel.com/AryJeay/status/1934246030750404643#m

[-] OnceUponATimeInWeHo@hexbear.net 21 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Ah good. Normal tactics from a normal country. Guess the air assault wasn’t getting the job done

[-] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 7 points 52 minutes ago

There's no way what's happening in Tehran is just car bombs. There's definitely car bombs and Mossad sabotage, but also plenty of munitions dropped by Israeli aircraft.

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 14 points 1 hour ago
[-] OnceUponATimeInWeHo@hexbear.net 14 points 1 hour ago

Allegedly assassinations of nuclear scientists

[-] hellinkilla@hexbear.net 20 points 54 minutes ago

In the same way that all Palestinians are reported to be raised as terrorists from babies, I suppose all Iranians are groomed to be nuclear scientists....?? Must have amazing math teachers.

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 8 points 51 minutes ago

Based if true

[-] OnceUponATimeInWeHo@hexbear.net 8 points 51 minutes ago

Yeah the baby in his father’s arms was definitely a future nuclear scientist

[-] RuthBaderGonesburg@hexbear.net 6 points 50 minutes ago

How long until Israeli suicide bombers

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 5 points 25 minutes ago

Zionists value each Israeli life at 500x every other life so it would take a very crowded train station to make a suicide bomb worth it in their calculus.

[-] john_brown@hexbear.net 11 points 49 minutes ago

that takes courage so it will never happen

[-] OnceUponATimeInWeHo@hexbear.net 3 points 48 minutes ago

Allegedly right now, but who knows https://t.me/TheSimurgh313/53098

[-] immuredanchorite@hexbear.net 19 points 1 hour ago

I was just remembering how the apartheid state had occupied a whole new swath of Syria, including the tallest mountain in the region. Is there a possibility of Iranian attacks extending to the occupation forces there... like, would that help ease pressure on Hezbollah and any resistance forces in Syria, or is that all moot at this point. I could see why the Iran would want to focus on tel aviv and the entities core military/industrial/energy facilities, but wouldn't it also be more difficult for the entity to defend its periphery and potentially lead the entity to make a caluculated retreat from the area?

On another note, this whole thing is really making it feel like Iran could have ended all this a long time ago by responding this way the first time around. I know hindsight is 20/20 but if all this was going to be made inevitable, it would have been better to go whole hog on the resistances terms rather than Israel's. Like if Hezbollah was still fighting and taking out the entities defensive infrastructure, Iran would probably have even more unfettered ability to strike targets deep in Israel, no?

[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 9 points 48 minutes ago* (last edited 46 minutes ago)

On another note, this whole thing is really making it feel like Iran could have ended all this a long time ago by responding this way the first time around. I know hindsight is 20/20 but if all this was going to be made inevitable, it would have been better to go whole hog on the resistances terms rather than Israel's. Like if Hezbollah was still fighting and taking out the entities defensive infrastructure, Iran would probably have even more unfettered ability to strike targets deep in Israel, no?

Obviously events are very far from over so it's impossible to say for sure how things will be interpreted let alone what the results will be, but I wonder if this will be seen as one of those classic historical tragedies, where in order for Iran to get to the point where its officials were united behind a policy of directly attacking Israel, the alternative strategy had to fail (well, more-or-less fail, Hamas and Ansarallah are still going and Hezbollah is currently dealing with domestic issues but maybe in the near-to-medium term they could come back and blah blah blah).

Like, if Iran had done what it is currently doing in like early 2024 instead of mid-way through 2025, then maybe there is too much internal pressure both inside the Iranian populace and between those in the Iranian state/military who might have disagreed on the correct strategy and the whole thing comes off the rails. Or maybe it does actually all work and Nasrallah and Sinwar and dozens of other officials and hundreds of thousands of people in Gaza are still alive. It's just one of those great historical counterfactuals that drive you mad; they're not truly answerable but you can fantasize about it a lot, like, idk, what if the German socialists didn't side with their government during WW1 for example.

[-] fever@hexbear.net 6 points 42 minutes ago

On another note, this whole thing is really making it feel like Iran could have ended all this a long time ago by responding this way the first time around.

Due to internal actions and policies that alienated its people from itself, Iran's leadership couldn't start/enter a war since that requires a united country that won't revolt. Even United States who have dominated its' population minds had to stop Vietnam war because people didn't want to want be part of it.

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 1 points 3 minutes ago

Can you expand on that? The main thing I know about Iran's domestic policies that was causing a lot of unrest was the modesty laws, otherwise I'm not sure what makes Iranians oppose their state.

Israel has the military support, radars, funding aerial fueling, propaganda of the entire west and the comprador regimes of the region all to fight a sanctioned third world country that got its independence in the 80s.

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 33 points 1 hour ago

NYT

Earlier today, Iran’s government advised citizens to take shelter in mosques, schools and subway tunnels. In remarks carried by Iranian news media, cabinet spokeswoman Fatemeh Mohajerani said that most services would be staffed remotely, while banks and healthcare centers would continue to operate with reduced staff. “We are in a state of war, a war that has been imposed on us,” Mohajerani said, urging calm during a news briefing.

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 5 points 15 minutes ago

shelter in mosques, schools and subway tunnels.

idf-cool famous for not bombing schools and mosques? I hope they have some cold-war bunkers in those community buildings or something.

[-] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 2 points 1 minute ago

Looks like all the missiles from the latest daytime Iranian missile barrage against Israel were intercepted, no footage of impacts.

[-] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 40 points 2 hours ago

New salvo it seems

🇮🇷🇮🇱| BREAKING: Dozens of Iranian missiles have been launched towards Israel

https://xcancel.com/AryJeay/status/1934235682831995100#m

they targeted Netenyahu's home

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[-] Pili@hexbear.net 21 points 2 hours ago
[-] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 23 points 1 hour ago

Iran won't do that because they only have 2000-4000 ballistic missiles with the range to hit Israel, and they're conserving ammunition to keep these missile volleys going as long as possible. Also missile bases in Western Iran are operating under highly restrained conditions, with Israeli air superiority there. This limits the maximum amount of missiles Iran can fire at once, mostly from the missile bases in Eastern Iran.

[-] Pili@hexbear.net 33 points 1 hour ago

The material conditions are upsetting me very much! I'm switching to idealism.

[-] trompete@hexbear.net 23 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Peter Scholl-Latour (1924-2014), a prominent German journalist and middle east expert, worked for the BND (German foreign intelligence), newly released archive files reveal.

Scholl-Latour, as can be seen from the 70 or so pages of the BND archive, is said to have repeatedly reported on his travels and people he met to the BND in the 1980s. He is also said to have made film and photo material from war zones available to the BND even before it was published.

The historical documents also mention assignments for the BND: for example, it is said that Scholl-Latour was supposed to meet a BND source in Lebanon. Elsewhere it is noted that Scholl-Latour wanted to help identify a person from the GDR who was working for the International Red Cross in Africa.

German article: tagesschau (ARD/WDR) | archive

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