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oldie meme but needed to bring this back due to recent incidents 😭
Why do you think you're better than us?
I like that the name of the platform has been written over.
"This is only happening locally here at and not at ". And that's happening for every place in the internet.
Marvellous
In my experience, this happens way less on Lemmy than on Reddit before the IPO.
i can’t speak to the frequency but the tone is definitely different when it happens here compared to on reddit, probably influenced by the demographic and field of interest differences. the ml roots of the place really have echoed throughout the tone of the space, so most of the arguments have a really cynical, high alert, almost superstitious affect to them that i never really encountered on reddit. (some random account i thought i was cool with is trying to like psychoanalyze my recent posts to find my true intentions? i gave up on that convo)
your mileage may vary, of course!
your mileage may vary, of course!
Blocking all of .ml makes your experiences vastly more pleasant
I wish I could do that, but sadly the Linux community is barely alive on any instance other than .ml.
So you're saying Twitter is better?
/jk
Sure, it happens here, but I feel the toxicity on Lemmy is far less then on Reddit or other platforms, and with toxicity I mean including people assuming you're saying something else because they are triggered somehow. But it's very hard not to stumble upon people like that. Trolls rule the universe, they are everywhere.
Just personally, I find that the toxicity around here just around group think is a little worse than reddit. It's different but it can be a lot worse, especially with the way people on Lemmy use downvotes.
It may be less toxic, but that's only if you share the sentiments many lemmy users share. The echo chamber is louder here
True. true.. true... true....
But I'm glad I don't have to scroll through loads of right wing extremist posts all the time and constantly have to fight nazis. nazis.. nazis... nazis....
So I'm happy with it. it.. it... it....
You hate Lemmy????!
I just ignore and block if it continues. I got no time for people who are responding to the voices in their head instead of what I'm actually writing.
TBF, I understand this annoying kind of 'reading into it'. at the same time, if someone starts dropping dogwhistles or starts dancing around something in a convo, i am definitely gonna read into that shit.
If you don't like waffles just say it...
On the other hand, a failure to make assumptions about what someone is saying leads to people being able either to willfully misrepresent their positions ("Oh, I don't hate waffles, I just bring up how the world would be better without waffles in every conversation, no matter how tangential!") or unintentionally fail to see the necessary implications of their statements ("I'm not saying waffles are better, I'm just saying pancakes are worse!")
All language has some ambiguity, which necessitates assumption in communication.
I'm convinced that most people don't read anything before sharing their opinion. An opinion with zero relevance or weight is absolutely useless.
Yeah but I preffer the pineapple before the pizza, that way the mass feels saltier.
So you hate pepperoni?!
No, I dont hate peppino spaghetti.
Most people their opinion is based on feelings, which often exist because of a screaming idiot on TV.
For example, my mom wants Islamic people out of this country, because they are criminals and do not belong here. She's lived her entire life in white neighborhoods, never had any experience with crime happening to her by anyone, but she feels this way because of a right wing politician screaming on TV. I have no issues with Islamic people while I live in a neighborhood full is mixed cultures, including many Islamic people. Any factual counter argument I present to my mom feels for her as a personal attack, because I'm attacking her feelings with logic, so the counter attacks with bullshit like "you have no respect to your parents/elders", "I'm not allowed to say anything anymore these days", "what do you know, knowledge comes with the years, I'm older so I know better". She assumes I'm just attacking her extremist comments because of puberty (I'm 37) and to make her feel bad.
I feel like she represents most people, as most people; assuming what people say on TV / internet is true, creating a feeling and opinion based on that which is carved in stone, seeing any counter argument as a personal attack, throwing counter attacks based on words put in other's mouths because attacking that is much easier then properly constructed factual counter arguments (because they don't have any).
FYI I ended all contact with my mom. She's angry about that too, she lacks the ability to see her actions have consequences. Again, like most people.
You say "An opinion with zero relevance or weight is absolutely useless." That is completely true. But those opinions do make people vote in a certain way. They do fuel hate. They do spread fake news. They ruin our society. So even though they have zero relevance and weight, they are super relevant and carry a lot of weight at the same time.
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Me: "I like pancakes"
Lemmy: "Only a shitlib western imperialist would think that. Read more Lenin."
Nah, that's just .ml
Me: “I like waffles”
Lemmy: “HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO GO MY LIFE WITHOUT PANCAKES YOU OPPRESSIVE INSENSITIVE FUCK”
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This is anywhere on the internet.
This is just text written anywhere. There's an art to making yourself understood in different contexts.
This is anywhere, period. You can do that with letters, you can do that with speeches, or in casual conversations.
And you're not always wrong about it either.
If you've played Disco Elysium, "Welcome to Revachol". If you haven't, play it. It's an amazing game
"Black lives matter? So you hate cops?"
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-"Russia should not invade a sovereign country, murder its citizens and deport their children."
-"Umm, actually, the US were doing crimes in Syria and you should not support them."
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So you admit that you're checking me out? And you wanna mate?
whut da hell
Oh sorry I was making a reference to Xavier: Renegade Angel, where Xavier somehow misinterprets the phrase "Checkmate" to be a proposition for sex, from a clone of himself. (One of those.. "Did I watch this at 3am one night or was that a fever dream?" shows)
bwahahaha good to clarify i would never have guessed that
And yet, you assumed an image on catbox would work on my device. Interesting.
Bravery is leaving both the ifunny and imgflip watermarks.
A large portion of the world is experiencing political polarization. I see the same things happening on Lemmy happen on other social media websites.
The “if you don’t agree with me you must have the exact opposite opinion” approach to debate seems to be more a problem of the participants than the platform.
Pretty much every time I dare to say anything negative about Russia or China I'm swarmed with illiterate tankie lemmings who jump into the conclusion that criticising one empire automatically means supporting the other empire.
I find that people that do this are often well informed on leftist theory, but know almost no history. I guess it's hard to accept that governing is exceptionally difficult and governments built with the best intentions are still subject to authoritarianism. Also, those governments weren't built with the best intentions, lol.
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What…. This is on par with any kind of internet discourse. It’s pretty much why I hardly ever post prior to Lemmy. It doesn’t matter how well articulated the post, SOMEONE will find the need to correct or clarify unnecessarily.
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I think it can be important to see the intent behind words and ask for clarifications. Oftentimes people are not direct about their opinions.
yuh, totally! i even experienced an example of your counterexample recently https://lemmy.cafe/post/10752342/8934173
egg on my face, i guess i worded a meme so badly it gave 180 degrees the opposite impression (to some). was super thankful to this user for being transparent and helping me identify what part to edit.
On Lemmy it's more like:
"I don't like pancakes."
"Oh, so I suppose that waffles are perfect huh??"
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