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submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net to c/games@hexbear.net

Ok so I've barely played this game so far, I'm only up to the Blighted Village. But I heard this guy is an annoying as fuck Redditor but so far he's just been a lovable dork. Does he get worse or something?

Honestly having Moss from The IT Crowd in my party is a breath of fresh air considering the other party members consist of an angry green fascist, a goblin racist, a foppish dandy who immediately tried to cut my throat, and someone called Shadow Fart.

I heard he was more obnoxious before patches. Do tell.

Edit: Oh and Wyll is there too I guess. I unironically forgot he existed lmao

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[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 57 points 3 days ago

He kept wanting to eat my magic items. Those are MY magic items, Gale, they're supposed to go in the team stash forever and never get used doggirl-growl

[-] mrfugu@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago

ok good I don’t need to comment on this thread because this is exactly why I quickly soured on Gale. Especially the way he reacted when I told him “no treat.”

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[-] fox@hexbear.net 51 points 3 days ago

Before the patches, Gale's romance meter would fill up really really fast and off of non-flirty, friendly interactions. "Sure Gale, I'd like to hear more about magic some time but I'm busy now" would basically be enough for him to become aggressively interested in you, fuelling a lot of Nice Guy type jokes about him

[-] Mindfury@hexbear.net 42 points 3 days ago

fucking hell, this explains it

i swear i had three conversations with him before he was like "please join me down by the river, i need to express my feelings to you".
my man, you told me you like magic and that you need to eat enchanted swords to live, i don't even bring you on quests - simmer down

[-] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago

I feel like this is a substantial amount of video game romance writing, which leads me to go "wait, what? romance begins now?" (there are some better written ones, but I feel like this is regular for many cRPGs)

(the romances in Shadowrun: Calfree In Chains were ok, though rather linear)

[-] fox@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago

Honestly even early BG3 had well done romance, just Gale in particular was a horndog

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[-] GoebbelsDeezNuts@hexbear.net 37 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I never really understood all the Gale hate, the entire cast is incredibly horny i dont get it

karlachs whole thing is literally being so pent up shes about to burst

the first comment shadowheart makes about karlach is "she looks like she could pick me up and carry me around" shy

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[-] Boynomoder@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago

If you don’t get why people find Gale annoying you might be the Gale of your group obama-sad

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 14 points 3 days ago

I am a huge annoying dweebus so that is a distinct possibility

Also I like eating artifacts

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 37 points 3 days ago

I heard he was more obnoxious before patches. Do tell.

Everyone was hornier before patches, but especially him

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 31 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Good god, you mean it was even more horny?

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 32 points 3 days ago

There was something where everyone's first romance scene was super easy to trigger. His was kinda obnoxious, and felt like him mansplaining magic to the PC if I remember right.

[-] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 3 days ago

Oh my god, him mansplaining the Weave to my sorceress was fucking infuriating. I live and breathe magic, my guy, I do not need you to lead me in a guided meditation or whatever it is we're doing!

And then when you find out his backstory it sounds like exactly the kind of thing I would veto if he were a PC in my game. You're level 1, dude!

[-] Blep@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago

They were definitely all(?) high level characters before the brainworm

willWill could summon greater demons in his backstory, meaning he was lv11 at minimum.

karlachKarlach cannot have survived as soldier in hell for decades and not leveled up at all, that's also impossible. Devils and demons are strong

shartShart is supposed to be a sharran elite, and all the mobs in the temple are like level 5 at minimum. She was definitely way higher, at least lv 9.

So will being a high level wizard in his backstory is pretty believable. Almost none of these characters work as level 1 characters. Maybe astarion or laezel? Idk

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[-] Aradino@hexbear.net 20 points 3 days ago

There was also a bug where he'd just.. Say lines that were meant for characters romancing him abruptly.

On my first playthrough it got so bad I couldn't do his actual quest because he kept talking about how much he loved me

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 14 points 3 days ago

Ok I take it back that sounds like the worst thing ever lmao

[-] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 13 points 3 days ago

I’m around the same point in BG3 right now and was feeling the exact same way about Gale and most of the companions. Most of them are awful and I don’t understand the hate Gale gets!

We have fascist frog, christofascist, fascist with goblin characteristics, and the creep who assaults you in your sleep, and the most hated one is the guy that thinks you’re pretty cool?

I still haven’t met Halsin, Jaheira, or Minsc but so far my list of “not-shitty-companions” is Karlach, Wyll, Gale, [Large gap], Astarion, Shadowheart, Minthara, Laezel.

If Lae’zel has haters I’m among them, if she has one hater it’s me, if she has no haters I’m dead.

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago

I have no idea why Lae'zel has so much fans, she a supremacist. I dunno, people are saying these characters have layers so maybe she gets better.

[-] NewDark@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

Yeah she has a redemption arc. It takes a while and doesn't really make up for her, but I do see why people could warm up to her because of it tbh.

[-] SHOW_ME_YOUR_ASSHOLE@lemm.ee 14 points 3 days ago

Laezel gets much better if you push her in the right direction throughout the story.

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 9 points 3 days ago

I can fix her. And also, somehow, we flirted by fighting each other, and she had a powerful spell in her inventory and just dropped kicked my ass. And:

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 29 points 3 days ago

He's both incredibly horny and also incredibly up his own ass

[-] Frivolous_Beatnik@hexbear.net 15 points 3 days ago

The bit where

spoilerYou can manupulate the moon lantern ritual circle and he's like "oh you better leave it to an expert" berdly-smug and if you dare to try it without him he gets pissy at you and basically says you're not competent enough for it to have been anything other than luck. I actually hated the little shit after that. My wizard PC has better stats than you, dumbass cracker magician!

Then you learn he got into a toxic relationship with the goddess of magic where he of course knows better than literal gods and gets himself super cursed with a magic WMD that could kill half a continent - and he still hasn't learned his lesson and tries to guilt and emotionally manipulate the PC into letting him control the artifact of doom macguffin! I hate Gale lmao

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago

Oh that explains it, I haven't got to that part yet lol

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[-] Mindfury@hexbear.net 25 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

i dunno, i fed him an enchanted stick or something and then he wanted to spoon and develop a meaningful long term love or some shit

this was like 3 hours in, i completely ADHD'd out on this game even though I know it's elite. I think I also fucked the vampire but he didn't turn me and lae'zel was into me.

also, everyone seems to like some evil purple woman but she was trying to kill a bunch of people with goblins? apparently she can be in your party but i literally pushed her down the convenient chasm into the earth she was standing next to

[-] Mindfury@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago

also the druid is absolute daddy mode and i'm sad i never got around to fucking him

game was horny

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 19 points 3 days ago

WHY IS THIS GAME SO HORNY I JUST WANT TO GO ON A WHIMSICAL D&D ADVENTURE meow-tableflip

[-] Stolen_Stolen_Valor@hexbear.net 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You can do that but what if you and muscle mommy smooched under the moonlit sky also? crush

[-] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 12 points 3 days ago

this was like 3 hours in, i completely ADHD'd out on this game even though I know it's elite

Yeah I haven't gotten it for this reason. All of my friends play it and it sounds great, but I simply don't sit down and play story mode games anymore. I know if I bought it I'd have a great time playing one night and never touch it.

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[-] flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 days ago

So... spoiler-free answer...

I'm a big fan of the setting.

I was, at first, super into Gale! I was playing a rogue elf so he didn't seem condescending. We were getting along fine. Then he told me about his past.

I went from Gale fan to hell fuckin no so goddamned fast! It was infuriating because none of my friends had any experience with the setting, so it took them longer to see the... toxic mentality that put him in the position he's in. I almost threw my controller! So glad we hadn't been screwing at that point or I would have wanted to kill him! I remember launching into a rant where I said that Gale was either the most arrogant fucking man alive, or he was by far and away the dumbest, and trying to explain just what it would mean if he could do what he was trying to do...

I'm still mad about it! You did what? What a fucking asshole! And to pretend that any of that was for anything beyond greed, beyond sheer arrogance! He had everything but it wasn't enough! Godforfuckingbid this man just accept his place!

Massive green flag from the fiance though. He was playing it behind me, and without any knowledge of the universe, he got to the same scene and said he also hated Gale was too greedy to be happy.

...is the spoiler-free version of that. (That situation) wasn't good enough? He had to risk the (positive situation) for something so childish and selfish?

Correct answer. Good litmus test.

[-] Frivolous_Beatnik@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago

He seems affable and then you learn that he's a scumbag on a cosmic scale! I honestly wish there were more redeeming qualities to him

[-] FemboyStalin@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago

He was groomed. So that's something.

[-] Frivolous_Beatnik@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

That certainly is a component of it I admit I hadn't really thought of

spoilerThe power disparity in the relationship between the god of magic and a mortal wizard/devotee does raise a lot of ethical questions. Definitely not a good look for Mystra.

I still am skeeved out by his emotional manipulation tactics and willingness to drag you and potentially the entire world down with him.

[-] FemboyStalin@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago

He's selfish, yes. But a lot of that is because of his overconfidence which is just him masking his insecurities. Imo, he'd be a lot better if he was a girl because of a lot of gendered baggage to how his emotions get read.

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[-] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 22 points 3 days ago

Shadow Fart

please, it's Shart.

catgirl-hiss But also that's my goth wife and I will have satisfaction, owl

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

She's cool. She seems nice once she stops trying to stir shit like some kind of catty teen.

Also she approves when you are nice to animals so she must be good.

[-] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 14 points 3 days ago

catgirl-disgust Hm, very well. I shall let this slight go, this time. Watch yourself, your wings and farty ways wont protect you forever.

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 17 points 3 days ago

rolls for fart skill check

d20-ah-fuck

Critical failure

[-] Mindfury@hexbear.net 13 points 3 days ago

i remember taking the ability to talk to animals and Shart being like "yes, that was a very nice cat" lmao

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 20 points 3 days ago

He's fine. People on the internet are addicted to rageahol.

His backstory does make him out to be kind of a jerk, but I don't think you learn the details until Act 2 or maybe 3.

[-] take_five_moments@hexbear.net 17 points 3 days ago

no spoilers

[-] Sulv@hexbear.net 20 points 3 days ago

Gale is the cracker normie shrug-outta-hecks

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 19 points 3 days ago

He's just some guy lmao

[-] TheSpectreOfGay@hexbear.net 19 points 3 days ago

i quite like gale and never got the hate either

im convinced at least part of the hate was, prior to some patches, he was basically guaranteed to hit on you, which probably made straight men uncomfortable

[-] KnilAdlez@hexbear.net 17 points 3 days ago

considering the other party members consist of an angry green fascist, a goblin racist

named Tav

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 15 points 3 days ago
[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago

I've never played the game and don't know who this is, but assume it is because they are all envious of his magnificent head of hair.

[-] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Aside from the romance issue, the problem is that Gale is a whiny douchebag who basically trips his way into higher power, ascribing many of your achievements to himself (even if you do not bring him along on quests) and thus thinking himself worthy of praise and other things that I will not reveal because of spoilers.

My friends and I were pissed that even after we made the choice to deny him one of these 'really bad ideas' he has, we were forced to see him achieve it in the post-game, and then were not allowed to kill him for doing something explicitly against our wishes, which we were entitled to make since we were the ones who actually saved the city, which he then seemingly forgot that we were opposed to because the BG3 writers aren't always to maintain coherent character emotional arcs and memory after Act 1 ( omg I love Act 1 though, so good), which can lead to some very funny story moments.

Perhaps he is better if you take him along (though he was already an annoying wizard to begin with) but if you are playing multiplayer and simply wish to save him by not dismissing him from your party, the story devs will still try to force him and his frankly absurd OC level goals down your throat because he is clearly one of their favorites.

Edit: That said, I am honestly not a huge fan of any of the NPCs especially compared to the interesting people you met in Divinity 2, which is the superior Larian game imo because it isn't tied to the exploitation strategies that plague D&D 5E as a system, so much so that bosses have to randomly lose status effects to maintain any level of difficulty.

That isn't to say BG3 is bad, just that, having played hundreds of hours of both, D2 is the more compelling game, in large part due to its much more difficult, and intricate combat system, which allows you to actually use status effects on bosses though they were a pain to get to stick, and encouraged you to really combo powers, rather than just have a couple one-trick pony styles.

Anyways, my point is that most of the characters are pretty meh, but Gale is absolutely the most annoying if you play the game not really interacting with him.

Edit the 2nd: Basically none of the characters are that great unless you want to have sex with them. Karlach was my favorite though, story-wise, because at least she has a character reason to be a dumbass.

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 13 points 3 days ago

Stop licking the damn thing

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