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submitted 23 hours ago by RedWizard@hexbear.net to c/news@hexbear.net

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/29815074

"Israel's" Minister of Strategic Affairs, Ron Dermer, a close ally of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, reportedly spoke “with his usual arrogance” to senior Republican officials, detailing what US President Donald Trump “must do", according to Yanir Cozin, a diplomatic correspondent for Israeli Army Radio, who cited a senior Israeli official.

However, Dermer’s approach appears to have backfired. Trump’s inner circle reportedly told him that “Netanyahu is manipulating the American president,” a characterization that did not sit well with Trump.

The cited official noted that “Trump hates nothing more than appearing to be manipulated.”

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[-] OnlyTrueLiberal@hexbear.net 9 points 8 hours ago

Biden would never have done anything like this.

[-] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 6 points 7 hours ago

biden-the-thing "I've been a zionist since they day I could eat ice-cream, jack! Whatiaboatuda wha-....I did NATO!"

[-] Cimbazarov@hexbear.net 11 points 9 hours ago

Kinda funny that Netanyahu thought Trump would be better for Israel than Biden. He probably thought he could just flatter Trump and he'd give them whatever they wanted. Meanwhile he'd insult Biden, call him a bitch, and then Biden would immediately send a new aid package

[-] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 9 points 9 hours ago

Attack dog got too confident and tried eating off their owner's plate

[-] hogslayer@hexbear.net 5 points 9 hours ago

Get fucked, Mr. Yahoo sicko-yes

[-] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 56 points 18 hours ago

the funniest timeline would be if the US stops helping the 51st state Israel because Trump actually believes the antisemitic lies of the "tail wagging the dog".

marx-ok

[-] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 11 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Okay so definitely that idea is antisemitic nonsense but if you don’t consider incompetence I understand why it looks that way to people.

From my perspective, US involvement in Israel is not in the US’s best interests. Frankly I think it’s obvious, Israel’s genocide has caused intense domestic strife, pissed off tons of our allies, increased the cost of shipping goods, and is constantly threatening to spiral even more out of control in ways that could cause the fall of the US empire. And for what? An unsinkable aircraft carrier isn’t much good if you collapse your country to build it and it’s sinking the whole time anyway.

So if you come in from that perspective, and then you see the way the US acts towards Israel despite the costs, there are two conclusions to come to, the incorrect one of “Israel (or just The Jews) controls the US government” or the correct one “US leaders are really stupid and genuinely think supporting Israel is good for the United States interests and do not recognize the dangers.” If you’re not accounting for people in power making bad choices that don’t give them their desired outcome, the only other option is “the tail wags the dog”

This goes double if the person thinking about this doesn’t understand how military aid works and that it’s also domestic spending and a way of handing money to Lockheed and Raytheon, or the nebulous “benefits” of imperialism. Easy to think “Israel is dragging us into this mess and we’ve given them hundreds of billions of dollars for nothing in return”

[-] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 7 points 7 hours ago

Combine this with the fact that they're deporting Palestinian protest leaders and writing "Shalom, Mahmoud" on the official White House post, (referring to Mahmoud Khalil) and constantly insisting that Israel means All Jews Always. There's going to be people who are like "Well I hate this genocide and the way my government is funding it, I guess I do hate the jews."

If they keep this shit up pogroms are going to make a comeback, which of course is good for Israel too, since it forces jews to run there and become settlers.

Stopping the aid and having Israel collapse in like a week would be a lot better for everyone, so I hope Trump is dumb enough to go for it.

[-] TrippyFocus@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 hours ago

It’s not so much just that the US leaders are idiots (they are), it’s that many of them will prioritize their own personal enrichment from ~~bribery~~ lobbying from AIPAC. That’s the reason so many of them will continue to support Israel.

Also when you basically need to be rich or useful to the rich to afford to run for congress going against AIPAC is pretty much a death sentence for your campaign. That also filters out potential dissent.

Goes to show that capitalism will always eventually run into problems since it will prioritize short term profits over everything.

[-] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 4 points 8 hours ago

it’s that many of them will prioritize their own personal enrichment from ~~bribery~~ lobbying from AIPAC

I think you overestimate how much money AIPAC contributes. Most of their contributions are in like, the thousands of dollars not tens or hundreds of thousands. I think you’re correct that they fear backlash from AIPAC, but I think they’re wrong about how dangerous that backlash actually is.

[-] NewOldGuard@hexbear.net 86 points 21 hours ago

If the US backs away from continuing to commit this genocide over petty interpersonal drama, that’s good but I can’t imagine a dumber timeline

[-] StinkySocialist@lemmy.ml 14 points 10 hours ago

All the libs who said the genocide was no reason not to vote for kamala would melt lol

[-] OptimusSubprime@hexbear.net 47 points 20 hours ago

Trump is gonna get murked. Just gotta wait for the lathe to spin up.

antelope-popcorn

[-] Leegh@hexbear.net 24 points 15 hours ago

American Ides of March but it's Trump choking on a burger while the Congress just stands around him watching.

[-] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 14 points 13 hours ago

Libs will claim that's how Stalin died.

[-] take_five_moments@hexbear.net 59 points 21 hours ago

aww is someone getting hung out to dry did-someone

[-] Fishroot@hexbear.net 38 points 20 hours ago

For once it's not Netanyahus' laundry that is hung out to dry

[-] Eirene@hexbear.net 18 points 17 hours ago
[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 29 points 19 hours ago

Bibi, Bibi, Bibi - listen-listen. I keep telling you that ya gotta buy $Trump meme coin.

Mr. President - respectfully - our relationship is not of that nature.

But it is of that nature. America - Strong and Powerful. Israel pound-for-pound is good but not Strong and Powerful like America. What are you without us? Ya gotta buy $Trump meme coin. It's a respect thing.

Netanyahu doesn't say anything. He just scowls.

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 36 points 20 hours ago
[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 41 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

[Meta] This is the first time I've seen a web page embed in a Lemmy post and I'm trying to figure out how and why.

Edit: Did Hexbear do a version upgrade just recently? Is this happening on any other post?

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 40 points 21 hours ago

Oh boy I remember the age of html frames like it was yesterday. Frames. Frames everywhere. Entire websites made of frames.

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 33 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

You just sparked a memory I hadn't thought about in ages lol

People used to embed those "what type of ___ are you?" Quiz results at the bottom of their pages or their comment signatures.

So many signatures that were like:

~Graveyards are full of honourable souls~... Here is my DS friend code for trading on Pokemon Pearl: 00036373

and then an embedded jpeg of a white box with a picture of a dragon in it and rainbow papyrus text that reads "you are a BLUE dragon. That means you are creative and love the arts! Paste this html in your signature to let everyone know your results"

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 22 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Every signature would have 3 frames, poorly formatted, with scrollbars for each one.

The nav sidebar would also have a scrollbar.

The under construction header with a gif of construction workmen would also be poorly formatted and have a horizontal scrollbar.

3 frames of the blog itself would have scroll bars.

[-] john_brown@hexbear.net 6 points 12 hours ago
[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 3 points 5 hours ago

In a scrolling frame

[-] Aradino@hexbear.net 23 points 18 hours ago
[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 17 points 18 hours ago

It was wild

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 17 hours ago

AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH pls no not this flashback

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 26 points 21 hours ago
[-] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 20 points 20 hours ago

Certain news sites and video hosts get embedded like this. I don't know if those sites are returning a different sort of embed data when hexbear tries to fetch something about them or if they're being handled in a special way, but it's been like this for a while now. I kind of trust that the lemmy/hexbear fork devs have done something to stop the embedding from being a security risk since I'd expect an outcry and the feature to be disabled otherwise, but it does kind of sketch me out every time I see it.

[-] sexywheat@hexbear.net 13 points 20 hours ago

Yeah it happened here too. It was also a link to Almayadeen website.

[-] buckykat@hexbear.net 9 points 20 hours ago

This is one of the only news sites that doesn't block embedding

[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 9 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)
[-] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 45 points 22 hours ago

When your bestie starts leaving you on read.

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 38 points 22 hours ago

The world is led by a bunch of idiots

[-] StalinIsMaiWaifu@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 20 hours ago

But I haven't even had my chance yet

[-] ButtermilkBiscuit@lemm.ee 25 points 22 hours ago

Lol, bullshit.

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