Probably super dumb but my temper got the better of me (hexbear.net)

submitted 16 hours ago by an_engel_on_earth@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

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Sent this to a lib friend of mine. Hasnt responded yet. He previously harshly scolded me for saying I wouldn't mourn Carter's death. He also complained abour leftists speaking horribly about world leaders. I probably shouldnt burn bridges but Im just so fucking mad at libs continuing to prioritize civility politics over actually doing or saying anything meaningful. Not to self-aggrandize obviously Im not doing activism feuding with my friends lmao. Anyway I guess Im still angry and I couldn't help needling him. I probably need to grow up and let shit go lol.

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[-] roux@hexbear.net 4 points 3 hours ago

Why the fuck should you mourn Jimmy Carter's death? Was he taken from us too soon or something?

[-] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 11 points 9 hours ago

I mean at some point in time these people need to reflect on the fact that they worship and defend genocidal war criminals. They're supposedly smart and well educated enough to understand what's going on in the world. I mean it's very simple, pissrael needs money and resources to commit genocide, biden provides the money and resources to pissrael, ergo Biden supports genocide. These people should really be ashamed of themselves for being worse than the average german bystander when Shitler was in power, if anything, since they're actively defending the bastard against their supposed friends.

[-] Wheaties@hexbear.net 8 points 9 hours ago

The small upside to Trump in office again is that liberals can't write this off as a one-off fluke. Like, when they insist "The office of the presidency is supposed to be respected! You're supposed to take it seriously, the title comes with gravitas!". No. No, it was never respectable, it's always been like this you just never listened beyond the tone and cadence to hear the actual words being said, never really considered the actions being taken. But liberals don't wanna hear it. Now I don't even have to try to make that futile argument. I can just point to the flim-flamming humbug and say, sorry, but he really is the most American president.

[-] DengistDonnieDarko@hexbear.net 46 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

gonna be honest, I'm not celebrating all that much. sure, it's great to see a ghoul die, I won't contest that or rain on anyone's parade. but the cancer was a year too late. the genocide went on uncontested, he's going to die an old man's death at an old man's age surrounded by family after a very long career of destruction. it's a very hollow "victory", and I say "victory" because in the end, he won. he'll die to the cancer, but he won. it's like Kissinger's death. yes I was happy, yes it's good that a ghoul died, but he lived to 100 or some shit after a long career of murder, completely uncontested. he won.

[-] an_engel_on_earth@hexbear.net 27 points 15 hours ago

Oh totally. This post is rly about my pettiness.

[-] al_gore_sky@hexbear.net 22 points 15 hours ago

What does this posturing do to help anyone or anything other than to cause you to become alienated from your friend

[-] abc@hexbear.net 10 points 9 hours ago

it took you 6 months and THIS post to make a comment???

what have you done to help anyone or anything other than posting this comment

[-] an_engel_on_earth@hexbear.net 22 points 15 hours ago

damn boo why you gotta come at me like that I already admitted I was a messy bitch

[-] mendiCAN@hexbear.net 15 points 14 hours ago

what good does this posturing comment achieve?

[-] HellieSkellie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I'd also like to know why OP does this kinda thing. The better I understand their thought process, the better I can interact with these types of people

[-] very_poggers_gay@hexbear.net 13 points 10 hours ago

I'd also like to know why OP does this kinda thing

Joe Biden knowingly, intentionally, and shamelessly kept israel's genocidal man, woman, child, and baby killing machine fuelled and armed to the gills, and all we could do as watch him do it.

In a just world, he would be tried for his crimes and rightfully meet his fate under a prison.

But we don't live in that world. We're far from it. So when we get a whiff of justice - a late stage cancer diagnosis that ensures this genocidal monster dies an agonizing death - it feels like a breath of fresh air.

[-] Blakey@hexbear.net 16 points 10 hours ago

Sure, that's why I think it's good he got cancer and why op also thinks it's good. Doesn't explain why taunting a friend about it is a good idea though.

[-] very_poggers_gay@hexbear.net 7 points 9 hours ago

who said it's a good idea? i responded to the question of "why" someone does that kind of thing (because it feels good), not whether it's a good idea (i don't think it is, but it feels more good than bad in the short term)

yeah, being nice and friendly is more of a "good idea", but sometimes the brain can't inhibit the urge to talk shit or troll shrug-outta-hecks

[-] mendiCAN@hexbear.net 7 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

well im not op, but if you're interested in my motivation for why i might do something like this, let's talk! first, is it the fact op is ribbing a "lib friend" that you don't get? or is it more that you disagree with ops enjoyment that a person is dying?

remember, im not op

[-] HellieSkellie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 4 hours ago

You can call for shit heads to die, that should never be a problem

The "ribbing" here is crazy aggressive and instigative, it certainly wouldn't inspire any change in the way their "friend" feels or thinks at all. OP's messages come off as self-fellating and obnoxious, and I see this same energy in people who I share local communities with. Trump lovers at work will say this kinda stuff, radical communist friends/friends-of-friends will be fighting in group chats with less woke people all the time about news like this too.

This seems mad toxic to say to anyone you call a friend, and like a good way to alienate instead of support. Feels like this Perry Bible Fellowship comic.

Anyways I'm really wondering why this feels good to say for OP. And reallly really I am wondering what to respond with when people say similar intentionally inflammatory stuff. You go to a birthday party, or a wedding, or somewhere else filled with drunk and politically charged adults and 7/10 times (for me at least) there will be a similarly vindictive individual trying to start fights calling for the death of X Y and Z. I'd love to get into their heads and figure out how to defuse the social stress for them. And it feels easier to ask someone anonymous on Lemmy than it does to try and pry someone's more extreme thoughts out of them in real life.

[-] mendiCAN@hexbear.net 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

OP: "Biden deserves the cancer he has"

OP: He previously harshly scolded me for saying I wouldn't mourn Carter's death. He also complained abour leftists speaking horribly about world leaders.

OP: Im just so fucking mad at libs continuing to prioritize civility politics

i don't agree that what op has done is mad toxic. op is not "crazy aggressive or vindictive". op wasnt "drunk", "at a wedding or birthday party."

op expressed privately to his "friend" thru text his happiness at a political leaders sickness. A friend who "harshly scolded him" for not mourning Carter's death. sounds like their relationship just be that way, or they're in the middle of a long argument about "civility" towards dying liberal leaders. I cannot say. What I can say is that it doesn't much match the examples you wrote.

While it's admirable you wish to "diffuse social stress" for people, the situations you've brought up and what op is speaking about are not at all the same. It feels like you might be projecting your previous upsetting interactions on to OPs post.

moving on. i have expressed happiness at world leader's deaths when it has been brought up by my friends n fam. I do it because i get absolutely sick at the fawning obsequiousness the media gives dying "elites" especially when they directly contribute to world suffering.

My close peeps who bring these things up do so —i can only assume— because they want to hear me rant (my friends love my rants believe it or not).

As i am the left-mosterest of my fam/friends they get to hear a perspective they don't hear in this rightwinged age. Then they ask questions like "Carter? wtf i thought he was great lol why do you hate his ass?" and we talk about why. Usually they don't tell me to shut up. if they don't want to talk no more, i stop. we never fight, even if we disagree. the fact we can talk like this without anger is why we're friends after all these years.

Disagreement isn't toxic. Saying provocative statements isnt 'aggressive'. you n i aren't having a toxic discussion right now (not that you said so, doing a tone-check), we simply disagree.

There is nothing wrong with disagreement, and nothing to diffuse, stress to alleviate. I just think you're (not on purpose, just by way of your experience) mischaracterizing ops post.

If you wanna talk on tips bout how to talk back to rude people at parties im no expert (I'm the ranter not the fig leaf) but ill try.

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 8 points 4 hours ago

That comic is lib shit about how you shouldn't call people out on their bigotry.

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 5 points 4 hours ago

Maybe there are valid reasons why some people feel this way. And maybe you should investigate why you don't.

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[-] sleeplessone@lemmy.ml 24 points 15 hours ago

Lol I also gloated about Joedolf Bidler getting cancer to my blue-MAGA friends.

[-] an_engel_on_earth@hexbear.net 17 points 15 hours ago

Are they still friends with you lol

[-] sleeplessone@lemmy.ml 12 points 15 hours ago

Yeah.

[-] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 14 hours ago

this is how i find out?

crab-dance

[-] Boynomoder@hexbear.net 11 points 14 hours ago

Probably

[-] TheSpectreOfGay@hexbear.net 15 points 15 hours ago

usually when i say this kinda thing i leave it without the correction so they can respond to it and then go "ooh sorry, typo, i meant less". it's way funnier that way