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On May 12, California Governor Gavin Newsom, a Democrat, demanded that cities throughout the state adopt anti-camping ordinances that would effectively ban public homelessness by requiring unhoused individuals to relocate every 72 hours.

While presented as a humanitarian effort to reduce homelessness, the new policy victimizes California’s growing unhoused population—approximately 187,000 people—by tying funding in Proposition 1 to local laws banning sleeping or camping on public land.

In his announcement, Newsom pushed local governments to adopt the draconian ordinances “without delay.”

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[-] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 23 points 1 day ago

A regularly scheduled massive waste of time and resources just to be cruel to homeless people is quintessential California.

[-] BGDelirium@hexbear.net 36 points 1 day ago

Some real Grapes of Wrath and Parable of the Sower hours

Two books I'm glad to have read in the past year, showing California as the hellhole it truly is

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago

The Dust Bowls are back too! really is grapes of wrath time

[-] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago

I demand that every 72 hours another joint attached to this man's body be inserted into a blender until he feels differently about the value of human life

[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 60 points 1 day ago
[-] Sinisterium@hexbear.net 7 points 9 hours ago

And that’s why he will become the democrat nominee

[-] Rom@hexbear.net 56 points 1 day ago

While presented as a humanitarian effort to reduce homelessness

How does this reduce homelessness?

The most coherent argument I've heard from reddit-logo is that the whole point of this policy is to ping-pong the homeless around till they naturally congregate in areas far enough out of site that nobody will bother reporting them anymore. So basically forcing them into massive isolated encampments so you don't have homeless people in public parks and shit.

Honestly if that's the fucking goal why not just be honest and have the state buy some vacant lots and make sanctioned "camping sites". At least then NGOs and shit could set up like showers and clinics and stuff nearby them. But knowing Amerikkka they'd probably just become concentration camps.

God forbid some just build some fucking public housing.

[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Honestly if that's the fucking goal why not just be honest and have the state buy some vacant lots and make sanctioned "camping sites".

frothingfash "I'M NOT HAVING MY TAX DOLLARS PAY FOR SOME slur TO LIVE COMFORTABLY WITHOUT WORKING"

It would literally just be a lot of land

[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 4 points 5 hours ago

Even that is too much, no politician in this wasteland is going to vote for a measure to establish land solely for the homeless.

None of those people would want to be known as the person who voted to establish what would doubtlessly become smeared as a 'homeless encampment' in their district/state.

I feel like you could retort to that "well it's better than them camping in your local park!" But Democrats aren't smart or brave enough for that.

Regardless, I wouldn't trust the US to implement something like this in any sort or humane or effective way.

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 41 points 1 day ago

Liberals would legalize murdering the homeless if they thought they could get away with it. But since they can't do that, they pretend like homeless people disappear if no one is looking at them. They think the problem goes away if you throw away all their stuff and tell them they can't stay there.

[-] Des@hexbear.net 41 points 1 day ago

"It's a lifestyle choice. They choose to be homeless. There are unused shelters, empty beds, and piles of cash, resources and housing but they just can't stop doing drugs. We need to open padded room straight jacket torture asylums again."

I have literally seen all these statements posted in earnest.

[-] CountryBreakfast@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 1 day ago

I hear them all repeated by professionals and academics constantly. It's so exhausting.

[-] sleeplessone@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

I've heard all of these opinions expressed by people in person.

[-] Bloobish@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago

Reduces homelessnes via number shuffling, i.e. moving homeless across county lines makes it harder for them to be officially recorded. Like all things neoliberal it is the appearance of wellness but nothing true or substantial. Instead of money going into housing, shelters, rehabilitation, and job programs we spend more money into a police force well drilled into treating human beings like the way one herds cattle.

[-] Chana@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago

He is probably just ~~lying~~ using PR nonsense speak. But I wouldn't be surprised if they used some tortured definition of homelessness that meant if they can't track a person for X consecutive nights they won't be included in the statistica.

[-] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago

If you're trying to move everything you own you are not at that moment homeless.

[-] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago

The point is to make it easier for cops to brutalize unhoused people.

[-] No_Bark@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 day ago

What the fuck is the point of this compared to say buying vacant land for the purposes of allowing people to camp there? You could then have outside support networks set up some basic infrastructure for the people living there through grant funding/philanthropy. I don't think this a great idea, but at least the money spent would have a tangible benefit. As opposed to this stupid homeless people shell game/shuffle state and local governments insist on playing??

[-] orcrist@lemm.ee 7 points 15 hours ago

One of the points is to try to get homeless people to move north or east, out of the state. Another point is to not deal with the housing crisis on the whole. There's a lot of money that property owners stand to lose. If property values across the state go down to where they should be.

In my opinion, property should be cheap enough where anyone who works a full-time job can afford it. In other words, minimum wage should be enough to buy an apartment. Ideally. But you know the landlords will never let that happen. You know the real estate speculators will block that from becoming reality. At least that's the situation right now.

[-] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 5 points 16 hours ago

The cruelty is the point

[-] ClassIsOver@hexbear.net 32 points 1 day ago

Because the point isn't to benefit people, it's to scare them so much that they engage in extractive forms of capitalism even if it kills them, and to threaten the rest of us to shape up or prepare to be put through the same process.

[-] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago

if you take the problem and shove it over there, problem solved

[-] No_Bark@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago

Ah the Patrick Star method, I see. High level planning happening in California.

[-] porcupine@lemmygrad.ml 46 points 1 day ago

Navin Gewsom, a fictional character I just made up with whom any similarities to real people are entirely coincidental, should be hunted for sport every 72 hours in the context of my fiction, which is again totally unrelated to any real events.

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 25 points 1 day ago
[-] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 9 points 1 day ago

Hey wait a second,I know this kid!

[-] Chump@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago

Bit white, but what can you do

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 41 points 1 day ago

all so he can get like 5% in the primary.

[-] Xenomorph@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago

Spending millions a day to shuffle around people instead of actually saving money by putting them in unoccupied homes (landowners and real estate speculators would get big sad so we're gonna kill 'em all instead!)

[-] mdd@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago

No money will be spent to move people. If the homeless do not move they will be arrested and have their belongings thrown out. San Francisco has been doing this already.

[-] Jabril@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago

Paying people to patrol and enforce this costs money, probably more than solving the problem

[-] darkcalling@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago

Terrorizing people is cheap. They've already committed to paying for tons of cops, this is just utilizing them for this purpose.

Besides even if it was more expensive it doesn't matter. This is not a find the cheapest solution machine where cheapest one wins. This has a very real and practical benefit which is terrorizing those at the bottom and scaring those at risk of hitting that bottom into allowing harsher forms of exploitation of themselves, of disciplining them with the fear of seeing that oppression into keeping their heads down. It's impossible for capital to put a price on subjugating and intimidating the proles into compliance and submission. Certainly not when the costs are not born directly by the bourgeoisie anyways but by the state financed off the back of imperialism.

[-] Jabril@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

Yes having homeless people to herd around helps to remind all the homeowners why they always vote for the higher police budget

[-] mdd@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

Copagandra at its finest.

[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 day ago

You have no idea how police budgets work then. Millions are spent annually per municipality on police activities to disrupt homeless encampments.

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[-] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago

Gruesome Gavin needs to be purged.

I'll leave "from what" up to the reader.

[-] sexywheat@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago

When our turn comes there will be no excuses for the terror

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago

I feel as if Gavin should be forced to relocate every 72 hours

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[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago

Fuck this douche.

[-] trabpukcip@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago

I didn't click the article, but iirc:

Year X a federal judge in Idaho rules authorities cannot displace a person sleeping outside unless there is a bed waiting for them at a homeless shelter. City cops and governments use this ruling as an excuse to allow encampments anywhere while not working to improve access to shelters. Public perception and media coverage of homelessness goes extremely negative.

Year 2024 - grants pass vs johnson Supreme Court case reverses the decision above, any perceived protections for the homeless are eradicated. The city of grants pass had been arresting/fining it's homeless population in an attempt to drive them away; a disabled widow sued, which went to the SC, and she lost.

Year 2025 - Democrats enact policies to harass, dispossess, and criminalize the homeless.

The purpose of a system is what it does and this system is evil JB-shining-aggro

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago

Goddamn American democracy, just a contest to see who can inflict the most suffering on people.

[-] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago

that'll help them get jobs!

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[-] corgisaurusrex@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago

Fuck Newsom

[-] Beaver@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago

They are so close to having roving death squads executing everyone who's shirt isn't ironed.

[-] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago

Fuck no, how about get fucked every 72 seconds?

[-] Angel@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago
[-] Sinisterium@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago

Gavin Spewsome

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