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Elon Musk’s shouting match with Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent might have been the final nail in the coffin for the tech billionaire’s four-month stint in the White House, but it came after months of bubbling frustration at Musk’s “chain-saw” approach to dismantling the federal government.

Musk and Bessent exploded at each other in April when Musk attempted to force through his pick to lead the IRS—Gary Shapley—behind Bessent’s back. (Musk eventually lost this battle—Shapley lasted less than 72 hours before Bessent tapped Michael Faulkender to replace him.)

“Fuck you! Fuck you! Fuck you!” a typically mild-mannered Bessent was heard shouting after Musk as they charged down the halls of the West Wing.

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[-] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 254 points 2 weeks ago

Failure by what metric? First off, he went in and destroyed everything he wanted to. He got the FAA to cancel their contract with Verizon and sign with Starlink for communication; He and DOGE gutted agencies that were supposed to regulate SpaceX, Neuralink, Tesla, and X; DoJ dropped a case agains SpaceX; and since he started his rampage, more than 40 agencies have taken no actions on investigations into his companies suggesting they are at least being slow walked if not dropped all together. The transportation department lowered requirements for Tesla and other companies to report incidents with self driving cars, and the FAA gave SpaceX permission to quintuple their number of launches despite the effect on the environment and air travel.

In what way was this a failure? Because Trump and his people hate him? Frankly, everyone hates Musk these days. Plus, I wear it as a badge of honor when the likes of Trump and his cronies hate me.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 104 points 2 weeks ago

I agree. They're trying to distance themselves from him because they think he is the reason their polling is sucking so hard right now. I think most everyone hates all of them, not just him.

[-] deranger@sh.itjust.works 40 points 2 weeks ago

Once you start viewing politics under the same lens as a professional wrestling match it begins to make a lot more sense. Faces and heels switch up every once in awhile to keep us entertained.

[-] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 20 points 2 weeks ago

Madame education secretary coming in with the Billionaire’s elbow!!!

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[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago

I think Elon himself is welcoming their performative hate as well. Thinking it will help his brand somehow by distancing himself from them. But the joke is on him because he did enough to completely taint his reputation for the rest of his life.

[-] WatDabney@fedia.io 43 points 2 weeks ago

Very much this.

Now it should be noted that Musk is, among other things, a desperately insecure wienie who really is crushed by the fact that basically everyone hates him and spends a great deal of time and effort cringily trying to compensate for it and pathetically failing. So at some level all of this certainly does hurt him.

But he's also toxically greedy and self-absorbed and wantonly destructive, and by those measures, his government tenure was a resounding success. And that he undoubtedly throws tantrums and goes on crying jags when he's alone, just like he's done since middle school, doesn't make any of the rest of it any less a success.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 15 points 2 weeks ago

But he’s also toxically greedy and self-absorbed and wantonly destructive,

Which is why I really hope he turns X against the Trump regime lol God I hope he's petty enough to attack them now

[-] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 weeks ago

I agree that his time at the white house has been a huge success for his personal interests.

However, I don't think it all went according to plan. I think he really did expect that he could make some government services more efficient. I also think he thought that his actions would ingratiate himself to the right, all over the world. I also don't think he expected the backlash against Tesla.

[-] Klear@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

I think he really did expect that he could make some government services more efficient.

What a grand and intoxicating innocence.

[-] 0000011110110111i@lemm.ee 82 points 2 weeks ago

Elon left the White House an utter failure.

No, he didn’t. He killed all the government investigations into him and awarded his companies huge contracts worth $billions for the foreseeable future. He achieved everything he really set out to do. DOGE was just the distraction.

[-] thedruid@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

Is everyone forgetting the data access this guy has now? He accessed EVERYTHING and his script kiddies installed a ton of shit

He did exactly what he was supposed to do Got the private information of every single person we have records on. That's a goddamn huge win for his fragile self

[-] mriswith@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Most people have absolutely zero idea about the access they had and what they could have copied.

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 10 points 2 weeks ago

Elon left the White House an utter failure.

Socially, yes. And he hates it. He's a narcissist, I doubt he will think of it as a success. OTOH, that's exactly what he's been doing for decades: failing yet still coming out richer afterwards.

Honestly it baffles me that this is enough to become the richest person in the world.
When will we learn that he actively influences these statistics to stroke his ego?

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[-] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

He did leave as an utter failure - not because of what he accomplished or didn't accomplish, but because he was already an utter failure of a human being the day he arrived in the White House.

[-] hefejefe@lemm.ee 61 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah I don’t buy it. Republicans are trying to save face. They cheered him on the entire election.

[-] logicbomb@lemmy.world 60 points 2 weeks ago

"Entire Trump team hated Elon Musk"....

If you'll recall, after Trump's first term, it was revealed that the entire Trump team hated Donald Trump.

Basically, any marginally competent person will hate working with people like Trump or Musk who make drastic changes without any reason or even any idea of what they're doing.

[-] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 40 points 2 weeks ago

He did everything he set out to do. Gutted every agency that got in his way of doing whatever he wanted with his companies. That's not fair. He needs to be jailed for this sabotage of our government. Let's not let some narrative of failure muddy the water on him actually doing those things

[-] gradual@lemmings.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Unfortunately, the only justice the Musk family will likely receive will be after his death when his offspring face guillotines.

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[-] skozzii@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

His companies should be seized and nationalized to repay all the damage he caused.

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[-] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 34 points 2 weeks ago

Such nonsense. Musk was along for the ride on the recent Middle East trip. The staff may hate him, but HitlerPig is keeping him close. He's going to need him to hack the next few elections.

If things are quieter, it's only because his board threatened to replace him after that disastrous earnings call, which has to have stoked threats of a shareholder lawsuit. The stock tanked as a direct result of his irresponsible behavior, which has done irreparable damage to the company's brand image, and the stockholders aren't going to just accept the loss of millions of dollars.

So he's keeping a low profile right now, until things cool off, but his presence on the Mideast trip means HitlerPig still wants him around.

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago

He was still there in the room when Trump was talking to South Africa's President Ramaphosa. He's trying to keep himself out of the spotlight but he's still there in the wings.

[-] badbrainstorm@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

It's gotta hurt bad to be rejected by the likes of Trumps cabinet. Lol

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

He will be back next week.

[-] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago

He was in the white house today during Trump's press conference.

[-] badbrainstorm@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

I know he's not going anywhere, but we've all seen how fragile his ego is, so you know it's hurt his feelings.

I'm generally very sensitive to seeing people sad or upset. But there are a select few demons out there that it gives me pleasure. Small victories

[-] Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Bro is on a massive amount of ketamine right now just to cope, I'm sure.

[-] leadore@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

Bullshit. He got pretty much everything he wanted, including gigantic government contracts for his businesses, while stopping all investigations into his criminal activity and negligent products. Also got to get high on swinging his dick around a lot, and still has trump offering him more favors for more money.

[-] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's never enough for these assholes. Musk wants the whole world to bend to his will because he bought the government fair and square. Some uppity government employee shouldn't tell him he doesn't have the authority to install more puppets in these agencies.

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[-] TommySoda@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

They did exactly what they wanted him to do. Now they want to make him out as the bad guy and use him as the fall guy so they look better.

[-] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 17 points 2 weeks ago

That's OK though. Libs were owned. Another event that will do nothing to harm the support from Trumps base.

No amount of death or self-harm matters to magas as long as libs were owned and some brown people were put in their place.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago

If Trump pissed his pants on live TV his MAGats would tell you that he's a genius who invented a self dying cloth.

[-] gradual@lemmings.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I think some of them are starting to wake up to the reality that their economic position will not improve under their god-emperor.

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[-] sfled@lemm.ee 14 points 2 weeks ago

Imagine having to put up with two self-absorbed billionaire asshats at the office every day.

[-] Merva@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago

You don't join the Trump team unless you are a self-absorbed asshole, so everybody there should be used to it.

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[-] Zippygutterslug@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Lol we are supposed to believe Musk bought a presidency and is going to just leave his money-making rule-breaking new toy alone?

Yeah right, and monkeys could fly out of my butt.

[-] invertedspear@lemm.ee 11 points 2 weeks ago

How crazy to be the useful idiot’s useful idiot.

[-] xenomor@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I hope that some day Elon comes to realize that he is utterly alone. No one, and I mean no one likes him. Everyone in his life that is friendly or supportive to his face, is putting on a show trying to get money from him or through their association with him. The assortment of adoring losers that identify with him, are merely chasing a mirage. They don’t adore him, only the fictional character that he’s constructed for PR purposes. He has to buy friends. He has to buy sex and offspring. He even has to buy the illusion of trivial accomplishments like progress in video games. He is peak loser, everyone can see it, and only a few are willing to lie to his face in exchange for maybe getting some cash. No amount of money, or fear driven bigotry, or trolling, or descendants will ever fill the gaping hole in that fetid husk he calls a soul. If there is any justice, he will be moping, riddled with regret about all this someday whenever he gets around to dying, alone in some dusty metaphorical corner.

[-] Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

he knows, why do you think he does what he does

[-] gradual@lemmings.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

“Fuck you! Fuck you! Fuck you!” a typically mild-mannered Bessent was heard shouting after Musk as they charged down the halls of the West Wing.

Video?

[-] rational_lib@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

It wouldn't be a Trump administration without reality TV drama. That harms millions of people.

[-] Zier@fedia.io 3 points 2 weeks ago

He, like orange donnie, was born a failure.

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[-] Drusas@fedia.io 3 points 2 weeks ago

Well, at least we can all agree with Scott Bessent on something.

[-] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I wonder if Elon knows he's a scapegoat. Like obviously he's a villain brought in to do a bunch of shit that was always in the Trump plan but would be unpopular with a bunch of people so Trump's team could say "Oh no! We didn't do any of that stuff it was all this evil Musk guy!" I just wonder if he knows that. He is pretty stupid in a lot of ways, but I really don't think he's truly dumb enough to not realize that was his role in the Trump admin, but he is also increasingly delusional about his own skill and intelligence so maybe that won out.

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Makes sense that he's now saying no more politics. I'd say he should throw money at the Dems except Lord knows those people don't need more billionaire donors, either.

Can we just have a government of the people, please?

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