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[-] ManlickerM2001@lemmy.blahaj.zone 90 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Unfun fact: due to growing up with tablets instead of normal computers a lot of kids nowadays don't know how stuff like directories work.

[-] auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

More worryingly, shoving them in front of a tablet every time they’re being difficult means they don’t learn how to regulate their emotions.

Difference between my daughter and her cousins is night and day. Few studies confirming this correlation with violent outbursts later in life too now.

Tried giving it her on a plane once and she had no idea what to do with it and sat and played with her toys instead, so not that intuitive. She has a mechanical keyboard hooked up to a Pi instead.

Also your link is broken

[-] Dreaming_Novaling@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 weeks ago

Also your link is broken

Guess this guy grew up with a tablet, smh... ~/j~

[-] ManlickerM2001@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Also your link is broken

It added my instance to the link for some reason, I think I fixed it now.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

they don’t learn how to regulate their emotions.

I don't believe there's causation. Kids learn to regulate their emotions from their parents, with or without tablets.

There are plenty of people with no regulation and no tablets. And plenty of well regulated kids with tablets.

Point is, it's a parent problem, not a technology one. Though it's very possible that shitty parents would use tablets as a pacifier. But they could also use TV, or sticking the kids outside all day, or anything else.

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

More worryingly, shoving them in front of ~~a tablet~~ the TV every time they’re being difficult means they don’t learn how to regulate their emotions.

The thing they're being shoved in front of isn't the problem.

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 32 points 3 weeks ago

Working at a university I have seen some astounding shit; people just barely 10 years younger than me who can’t read analog clocks or make change let alone use a mouse or move a file to a flash drive.

[-] turmacar@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Some of that's cultural momentum right? Like I don't know how many pickles it takes to make a Peck of Pickles despite hours singing about it as a kid. There's not a lot of reason sans-nostalgia to read an analog clock or drive a manual car. (I love my manual, but they're not getting any less niche with EVs on the way.)

And everyone's going to learn something the first time, some time. But it is just nuts that for some people that is apparently after getting a job with a Bachelor's, somehow. So much time, money, and energy was spent in the 90s/00s having computer classes in schools and now so much of it has been cut because the people in charge are so out of touch that watching youtube on a device designed to be easily usable is indistinguishable from "technical skills".

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

No, I don’t think not being able to make change or not stopping touching a screen no matter how many times you are told that it isn’t a touch screen is cultural momentum. I genuinely think that we the older generations have failed Gen Z at a common sense and problem solving level and I very much hope that we don’t keep failing Gen Alpha. I was in school still when no child left behind went into effect and the difference was stark. It was said then that it was designed to create a generation of Republican voters and based on the most recent election it looks like it might have worked.

[-] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 2 weeks ago

most kids today are technologically illiterate. We didn't call anyone who watched a ton of tv a tech-wiz, because tv was just a device made for consumption of content. Even though the tv uses electricity to work

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's not just kids. Some of the phone/tablet kids are in their 20s now. They have no idea what a file or folder/directory is. When greeted with dialog boxes on PC they just click OK or next until they go away without reading at all. They're just as bad as most people in their 80s trying to use a computer. Oh and they can't type to save their life.

[-] tau@infosec.pub 9 points 3 weeks ago

That's horrifying.

[-] Korne127@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

The stated article is from 2017. That’s not about kids growing up with tablets.

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

September 22, 2021

[-] toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago

your fault, and THANKS for doing this to the people that i'll need to have take care of me when i'm old and feeble. water? like, in the toilet?

[-] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

I know, right? It doesn't even have electrolytes. That's not what plants crave.

[-] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

Don't give your kids velcro shoes after about age three. Deal with teaching them to tie them for a few months. No, it's not convenient, but you're doing it for them, not you.

it's not convenient, but you're doing it for them, not you.

All of parenting - especially the difference between good parents and bad parents - summed up in a single sentence.

[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 3 weeks ago

I am pretty sure I struggled with that until middle school 💀
I mean, I could do it, but slowly, with a lot of conscious thinking.

And honestly, I still don't know to do it the "correct" way. I mean, bunny ears seem to work just fine anyway.

[-] toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

easier said than done, but you need to change the way you think about it. don't think about the "steps"; think about why you're taking them. goes for everything else, too. i'm in my forties and i still find times i'm just following "steps" and not considering why.

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

There is no incorrect way. The typical shoelace knot is actually just a square knot, but one where you make the second part out of two loops (bights) rather than the standing ends. What technique you use to arrive there is completely irrelevant as long as the end result is the same.

(You could use a traditional square knot instead if you really wanted to, but it would be annoying to untie.)

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago

I'd guess most people tend to tie grannies rather than squares just because you tend to repeat which hand is wrapping which strand over the other.

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

I was in my 30s when I learned that I needed to go overhand one way then over the other way. Really embarrassing because I had known how to use a square knot since I was 10.

[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

Go fisherman's knot lol.

[-] Wolf314159@startrek.website 2 points 3 weeks ago

Bunny ears or a variant thereof is usually more stable anyway. I taught myself a new better way to tie my shoes at 30 something. Now I no longer need to double knot themand they always come undone easily by pulling the ends. Previously, knotting them the way my parents taught, my knots always came undone and the loops didn't lay flat on either side (getting skewed to up and down my foot/leg).

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

They taught you to tie a granny knot instead of a square. So did my mom, or she just didn't care likely. I was also in my thirties when I realized it should be a square knot for the base.

[-] sfled@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

"Left over-and-under right and pull ends tight, then right loop over-and-under left loop, pull both loops tight" was the way I learned. It's just the entire 'letting go then pulling thru' that broke my brain when I was a little kid. Also, fuck Asics, some of their laces won't stay tied unless you epoxy the knot.

[-] toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

come on! it's a lot easier to not toilet-train your kids if you can afford all the diapers

[-] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

3? Lol, we know you don't have children.

[-] doug@lemmy.today 10 points 3 weeks ago

Magicians say toddlers are also good at deciphering their tricks since they haven’t yet learned object permanency.

[-] vvilld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago

Toddlers have object permanence. Object permanence develops at around 4-6 months old. Kids are still infants at that point. Toddlers are generally 1-3 years old.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I don't believe in object permanence. I think it's a hoax just like the moon landing and the time cube. If I can't see something it stops existing. Just like how rocks are actually soft, they just tense up when something touches them.

[-] tempest@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago

This says less about toddlers than it does about what Apple knows the public requires to use a computer.

[-] brown_guy@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago

It's real. My 3 yr old can't speak his mother tongue properly but can use phone like an adult

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They know how to navigate the phone in a corporate-approved way better than I do, but they have no idea how any of it works.

[-] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

I need you to understand that UX/design has been made super easy in order to attain more users. This in turn makes it easier for children, who are then also targeted by the likes of YouTube kids.

Devices and operating systems nowadays are dumbed down to a fault to control you as well, since you're not supposed to be tech literate enough to move to a competitor.

The barrier to entry is low, and adversely, the barrier to exit is also made really, really high.

[-] Liz@midwest.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

Modern UX is all slip-on shoes. Not even Velcro.

[-] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

We’ve made tech way too accessible - and now we’re paying the price for it.

Back in 1995, we got our first family PC. Dad was never able to use it; despite our efforts to teach him. Couldn’t grasp left and right mouse button, much less concepts like directories, installing software, drivers, etc.

But on his iPad? He can do almost everything: e-mail, Facebook, watch TV, YouTube. And get subjected to boomer brainrot. Just like a toddler.

Is he more tech literate? Absolutely not. In fact, he’s regressing if anything. But we’ve made it so easy, even my completely tech illiterate dad can now argue with strangers on Facebook or post dumb shit on YouTube.

And it fucking shows. The amount of goddamn complete idiots online is shocking. I miss 1995, when you had to be a nerd to get online. It filtered out a lot of folks who simply shouldn’t be online.

[-] MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Velcro is just so much better, why the fuck do we use laces?

[-] eletes@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

Aesthetics and tradition I'd say. Maybe there'll be a generation that couldn't care less about tying and there's a big flip.

And then their kids have a hipster revival of laces and yearn for a nostalgic time they never lived in while saying they were born in the wrong generation lmao

[-] MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 weeks ago

Hopefully it comes soon enough

I’m so lazy and I never untie my shoes so when I put them on again they are damaged a bit, and then end up not lasting for long. Apart from that, it works surprisingly well. Do people do that do?

[-] Guitarfun@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

My feet sweat a lot so I wear very thin shoes with airation holes and they're usually pretty stretchy. I slide my shoes off and on easily and only tie them once when I first have to buy a new pair. Usually the heel blows out before anything else, but it's probably my fault because I throw them in the washer/dryer trying to fight the stink from sweaty feet.

If anyone else has this problem I just recently found that hand sanitizer spray works way better than washing and drying because the alcohol kills the smelly bacteria.

[-] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

My brother in Lemmy, may I tell you the Good News of the Nike Free Run Flyknit 2018? The shoe that has such a cult following, it’s still in production 7 years and two sequels later?

[-] Guitarfun@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Those do look really comfortable! I wear something very similar for work, but they have more a dress shoe look. Almost exactly like these but thinner I think: https://a.co/d/cLPsGH6

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