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Image is Israeli interceptors trying and failing to intercept missiles over their cities.


Israel just carried out a widespread bombing of Iran, which has killed a number of senior officials inside Iran (though it seems the leadership is more-or-less intact) as well as a number of civilians. Important facilities have been targeted, but the amount of damage is unknown so far (note that many important Iranian facilities are deep underground, making them both hard to damage but also hard to determine if they are damaged from just satellite imagery, so reports of damage will be he-said-she-said).

It appears the attack took Iran by surprise, given that a residential block was targeted that contained some senior officials - if one saw an attack coming, one would imagine they'd be in bunkers. Nonetheless, like the rest of the Resistance Axis, I suspect that Iran has adapted their military structures to be resistant to decapitation strikes by ensuring that replacement figures are ready to take the place of killed officials.

Iran has delivered a massive missile barrage in response to Israeli aggression, even though Israel is continuing to bomb Iran. Iran is now aware of the location of many important Israeli sites, including secret nuclear sites, due to their recent intelligence haul, giving them a distinct edge.


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Israel-Palestine Conflict

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Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news.
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon. - Telegram is @IbnRiad.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis. - Telegram is @EyesOnSouth.
English-language Twitter account in the same group as the previous two. - Telegram here.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists
Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Sources:

Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.
Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.
Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.
Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.
Simplicius, who publishes on Substack. Like others, his political analysis should be soundly ignored, but his knowledge of weaponry and military strategy is generally quite good.
On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.

Pro-Russian Telegram Channels:

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.
https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.
https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine Telegram Channels:

Almost every Western media outlet.
https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[-] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 20 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 44 minutes ago)

Embrace Z poster mindset. Harden your heart. Attack immediately. Don't wait for perfidious tricks. Go for the throat with everything you have got. Never negotiate unless it's to position yourself to strike like Trump did.

Putin, Kim Jong Un and al-Houthi get it. You know what they have in common? Genocide of their forefathers in recent memory (very recent for Al-Houthi, he himself survived it). Only people who have experienced nazi genocidal war understand it. Everyone else still has delusions about the civility of the west somewhere in the back of their brains that lulls them into complacency like an anglerfish light.

If Putin got it in 2014, we would not be bogged down in Ukraine. We would not have lost Syria as Russia could support with full strength.

If the Ayatollah got it on Oct 8 2023 he could have saved 377,000 Palestinian lives as well as tens of thousands of lebanese, iranians, syrians and yemenis and gone to war with allies instead of alone.

If Nasrallah got it he would still be alive and would have launched the hezbollah rocket staches at tel aviv instead of doing nothing.

Stop the compassion. Stop the negotiations. Your opponents are agreement incapable. Use it or lose it. You think the red army gave compassionate ceasefires over and over to the advancing nazis? Why does it feel like we want to win more than these nations do? Why does it take them tens of thousands of deaths to finally reach the conclusion we could have told them at the outset? Just a formality? Millions must die to check the boxes before we are allowed to fight? Some kind of perverse morality in this self-sabotage? The "virtues" of patience and restraint have led to ruin, they are fatal weaknesses.

How many millions of Chinese will have to die before Xi and the CPC get off their asses to do something? How many of their allies crumbling? Because if they do nothing, America will isolate encircle them and eventually it will be them getting decapitation strikes in a couple decades. The fantasy of nuking the dams will be a real threat, like the fantasy of Israel doing a samson option is a real threat to us now. This machine only goes in one direction and it only responds to force. FUCKING UNITE RIGHT NOW AND SMASH IT

[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 13 points 42 minutes ago* (last edited 39 minutes ago)

every year or two, we get another country or leader that thinks that they'll be the intelligent, crafty ones to finally manage to make a deal that puts them in front and disadvantages the Americans and high-mindedly thinks they're saving their country from war and bloodshed, and inevitably, the US and their allies take advantage of every single tiny little point or loophole in that deal until they break it when the time is right for them to do so.

and all anti-imperialist forces seem to do is bleat about how that's "unfair" and that these diplomatic tricks are somehow a) new and b) portend the downfall of the West because other nations will see how unfair the US is, when in reality breaking deals might actually be the oldest things that the Americans have done, right from the inception of the state as a British colony, and are partially the reason that they ascended to world hegemon in the first place

I really hope that Iran has spent the last year or so preparing as much as possible, because if not, it demonstrates that there's just some fundamental naiveity that prevents the anti-imperialist camp from observing a conflict and going "hm, gee, negotiations and diplomacy didn't work there! guess I can't do that with the US in good faith!" and millions, maybe even tens of millions may die before they, as you say, harden their hearts

[-] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 12 points 48 minutes ago

Your opponents are agreement incapable.

This really is, like, one of the most consequential takeaways of the 21st century. That the west does not make reliable agreements nor does it keep it's word. It's extremely obvious that the west's opponents will now all begin to think like this, yet the mere idea of that is completly absent from mainstream media, somehow they still represent tje west's opponents as the inflexible ones.

I think you can probably still make some kind of deal, the ukraine war will probably end in a deal, china will still be seeking deals, but it'd be stupid to immediatly come to the table when the west tells you and not play hard to get, and even stupider to not get strong guarantees as well as some type of sanction for when the west breaks them or disregards them

[-] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 7 points 39 minutes ago

I think we're past the point of deals and guarantees

We're entering war

[-] 3rdWorldCommieCat@hexbear.net 9 points 40 minutes ago

I genuinly don't understand how any single world leader can still think about negotiating with the west. It's a death sentence and they just walk right into it and doom us all.

[-] fever@hexbear.net 10 points 41 minutes ago* (last edited 41 minutes ago)

Israel pulled its signature move and targeted a hospital in Kermanshah:

(cw: blood)


[-] cinnaa42@hexbear.net 8 points 59 minutes ago* (last edited 59 minutes ago)
[-] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 20 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

How public is information regarding missile production in the USA? Do we know which factories where make which missile type? THAAD? Patriot? If anti-war activists are looking for a pressure point, I think I know one if we can figure them out. Please only post legal public info no fedposting ty

[-] cinnaa42@hexbear.net 5 points 44 minutes ago

Look into what Palestine Action do in the UK and how they gather intelligence. You can scout facilities out, keep an eye on what goes in and out, and figure out which companies are working with which. Enough people doing this for long enough and working together could gather a lot of information on the arms production network within the US. The arms manufacturers themselves are usually hard targets and have insurance, but their insurers, suppliers, cleaners, etc etc are not, and it's often easier for them to cancel a contract rather than facing being targeted by an anti-arms trade campaign. Do this consistently for long enough, and it starts to become materially harder for arms firms to conduct their business - fewer companies will work with them, security costs go up, etc.

[-] BanSwitch2Buyers@hexbear.net 9 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Found one anyway.

Missile Factory in Arkansas Raytheon partnered with Israeli defense contractor Rafael in February to construct a Tamir missile facility in Arkansas to support US and Israeli warhead requirements.

The Tamir is among the primary missiles used by Tel Aviv’s Iron Dome.

The center, which will be built in East Camden, will also manufacture the Tamir’s American variant SkyHunter for the US and its allies.

Plans for the Arkansas factory were first announced in October 2023.
https://thedefensepost.com/2024/04/25/raytheon-expands-missile-factor-alabama/

L3Harris (formerly Raytheon Technologies) assembles SM-6 missiles in Camden. The Aerojet Rocketdyne facility in Camden manufactures their propulsion systems.
https://www.magnoliareporter.com/news_and_business/ouachita_county/article_ae76c556-2c95-4b56-96aa-e0fac2201efc.html

So there are either multiple factories here, or they're expanding one big one they have to make multiple missile types. Looking it up on Apple Maps it seems pretty small and desolate minus a bunch of factory/warehouse-like buildings from satellite images I'm seeing.

Edit: oh yeah, the other post with the maps is better and has the factories in East Camden listed out, seemingly. There are multiple factories here. I guess it makes sense since this place only seems to have a university, weapons manufacturing, and seemingly little else. Not sure how many weapons manufacturing company towns there are in rural US, but yeah.

[-] cinnaa42@hexbear.net 4 points 50 minutes ago* (last edited 50 minutes ago)

L3Harris

They have a big factory in Brighton (in England) which local campaigners have been fighting to get shut down for years. An extension was denied a few months ago. However, that's a large city with a notably active "leftist" scene. Pressure campaigning can work but it has to come from the local community to be truly effective, and if it's a small town where the best jobs are all in the arms sector then that can be very difficult.

Overall, as an outside observer (so my assessment may be flawed), one of the big issues facing US anti-arms campaigning is that so much of the production is in these small towns far from any major population centre. It seems to make the kind of direct-action-and-community-pressure campaigning that has been effective in the UK (and other parts of Europe) much more difficult to pull off. However I'm sure that there must still be some facilities closer to large cities, and perhaps more importantly, all the other firms which support the arms trade (insurance, logistics, suppliers, etc) will have branches across the country. Palestine Action, in addition to directly targeting arms factories, have also extensively targeted these kinds of firms, and have been able to get a number of them to stop working with Elbit and other arms manufacturers.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 10 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

SM-3 interceptors, the kind used by Israel, can only be produced in very small quantities. The US produced 71 in 2023.

It's not the same missile, Israel use their own version called Arrow 3. But it gives an idea.

[-] carl_marks_1312@hexbear.net 9 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Found this posted here last year

map of the main companies and subcontractors on US DoD contracts for weapons/platforms/etc that isra*l is using in Palestine and elsewhere.

https://xcancel.com/squarecoats1/status/1857783112324841626

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 16 points 2 hours ago

One missed last night. Iranian missile landing in Israeli Petah Tikva settlement.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 17 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

It is possible that the fuel tanker movements are part of this and nothing to do with Pissrael:

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/nato-jets-to-exercise-near-finnish-border-with-russia/

The United States, United Kingdom, France and Finland will take part in Atlantic Trident 25, a multinational air combat exercise set to run from 16 to 27 June 2025 in Finnish airspace.

[...]

Participating aircraft will include:

Finnish Air Force F/A-18 Hornets

U.S. Air Force F-35A Lightning IIs, F-15E Strike Eagles, and KC-135 Stratotankers

French Air and Space Force Rafales, E-3F AWACS, A330 MRTT, and A400M transport aircraft

Royal Air Force Eurofighter Typhoons

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 29 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

It should be pointed out; with each new sortee western jets and pilots are experiencing cumulative degradation and burnout, every Iranian drone shot down requires missiles, jet fuel, a maintenance cycle and pilot focus and energy to accomplish, radars are distracted and specialists go without sleep

Each Iranian missile that gets thru degrades morale and pushes cumulative maintenance requests to the back of the queue

Israeli and western intelligence agencies are burning through assets, informants, and year long plans on an multi hour basis

Meanwhile Iran just has to keep lobbing missiles and drones while the more extensive operations are conducted on well trodden home soil

[-] aanes_appreciator@hexbear.net 20 points 2 hours ago

yup, Israel really banked on the war being over as quickly as it started, or at least dragging the US into it immediately by gloating about "coordination". I dont think they ever expected to crack any of the strategic nuclear sites in Iran, but do just enough damage and strike just enough panic into the Iranian political class to get them to back down.

Pezeshkian is known to have been an opponent to True Promise II and part of why True Promise III never materialised before now. There are other moderates who equally didnt want to escalate the confrontation, hence the negotiations with Trump. However, it appears these moderates have backed down.

[-] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 12 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

these moderates should be executed or purged for allowing genocide and war

[-] Comrade_Mushroom@hexbear.net 19 points 2 hours ago

I'm not saying you're wrong, because of course how the fuck would I know, but as many people keep pointing out, Iran is a much more formidable opponent than what Israel has taken on before. I just find it hard to believe that they expected the war to be over so quickly. If anything it feels to me like their intention was to set a fire that the US will be forced to put out.

But again, the fuck do I know?

[-] Ecoleo@hexbear.net 9 points 1 hour ago

I still wouldn't rule out the US getting involved. Isntreal might even be doing all this to soften Iran up and absorb their missile and drone stockpiles for awhile so the US can sweep in later.

[-] BanSwitch2Buyers@hexbear.net 3 points 32 minutes ago

The US is kinda' stuck trying to funnel weapons to 2 countries and I don't know if they won't just keep supplying both as MIC gets greedy for more contracts/money. If the US picks Ukraine or Israel the other one's basically guaranteed to lose. Ukraine might get more European weapons than Israel would, but IDK.

[-] aanes_appreciator@hexbear.net 11 points 2 hours ago

Yeah Israel definitely underestimated Iran, and moreso was really desperate to get the US involved so they could wipe their hands of the fighting while the US and its regional allies take the hits for them.

Either they hoped Iran would roll over out of paralysis of the first strike, or that said strike would encourage retaliation onto US regional bases as well, or some wild escalation like closing Hormuz or attacking Dimona to bring the region against Iran. Fuck knows though, sometimes these morons are just that.

[-] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 7 points 2 hours ago

I don't know about any of this. I don't think any of what you list here is particularly rare or in short supply. Iron dome or whatever missiles? Maybe, but jet fuel and pilots? That's stretching it.

As for intelligence agencies "resources" you may as well make the point if this stuff isn't meant to be used at some crucial moment like right now then when is it ever meant to be used?

It reminds me of this ProZd classic

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 9 points 1 hour ago

Either Israel continues to use a hundred jets a sortee to break thru Iranian air defenses or it doesn't, and there's the jets that have to hunt the drones in Syria and Iraq

The Israeli airfleet is big but it's not so big that it can avoid pilot burnout while operating at the levels it's currently at

And the point of intelligence resources is regime change and disruption, clearly neither are happening at the scale Israel hoped for, and once those assets are burnt they're gone, with most of them being the product of years of work and not equivalent to "healing potions" in a video game

[-] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 4 points 2 hours ago

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 30 points 3 hours ago

All 28 USAF Refueling tankers that left mainland US have moved to Ramstein AFB, Germany.

[-] cinnaa42@hexbear.net 7 points 1 hour ago

I'm not well versed on imperial military logistics, but don't they move assets to the Middle East from there?

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 29 points 3 hours ago
[-] hellinkilla@hexbear.net 2 points 51 minutes ago

What a weird, seemingly obvious, and non-actionable thing to say.

I speculate that paramedics are being harassed when they are unable to save the life of a bombed person. Probably Israelis are starting protests against the ambulance service for their failures at magically reassembling a human. So now Ambulance has to explain to people that they live in physical bodies and are vulnerable just like everyone else.

[-] skeletorsass@hexbear.net 22 points 2 hours ago

Ambulance? Shelter? Both are a military target according to isntrael

[-] Pili@hexbear.net 15 points 3 hours ago
[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 31 points 3 hours ago

Treat for the weapons sickos: video of Iranian ballistic missiles/stage separation taken by someone in flight/at altitude

https://x.com/FaytuksNetwork/status/1934492643662193088

https://xcancel.com/FaytuksNetwork/status/1934492643662193088

[-] DengistDonnieDarko@hexbear.net 8 points 2 hours ago

how long does it take for one of these to touch down after being launched?

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 18 points 3 hours ago

This is the best video so far.

[-] Goblinmancer@hexbear.net 21 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 4 minutes ago)

Look if im like an elite person i would never trust a bodyguard from a "praetorian" firm

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