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Image is Israeli interceptors trying and failing to intercept missiles over their cities.


Israel just carried out a widespread bombing of Iran, which has killed a number of senior officials inside Iran (though it seems the leadership is more-or-less intact) as well as a number of civilians. Important facilities have been targeted, but the amount of damage is unknown so far (note that many important Iranian facilities are deep underground, making them both hard to damage but also hard to determine if they are damaged from just satellite imagery, so reports of damage will be he-said-she-said).

It appears the attack took Iran by surprise, given that a residential block was targeted that contained some senior officials - if one saw an attack coming, one would imagine they'd be in bunkers. Nonetheless, like the rest of the Resistance Axis, I suspect that Iran has adapted their military structures to be resistant to decapitation strikes by ensuring that replacement figures are ready to take the place of killed officials.

Iran has delivered a massive missile barrage in response to Israeli aggression, even though Israel is continuing to bomb Iran. Iran is now aware of the location of many important Israeli sites, including secret nuclear sites, due to their recent intelligence haul, giving them a distinct edge.


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[-] Monk3brain3@hexbear.net 26 points 4 hours ago

I was listening to the radio war nerd episode (its free on podbean) and they think that Iran took an absolute beating and that their response was pretty pathetic. Any opinions on this?

Also Iran ffs get a nuke. The west will turn you into Libya if you let them.

[-] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 22 points 3 hours ago

they've been completely wrong about russia-ukraine. They were overly confident and sure of russia at the start and then overcompensated and became total doomers that have been wrong for years.

[-] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 9 points 2 hours ago

They've said that the war went terribly for russia early on, which is hard to refute, but every update they've given for the past year is how bad it's going for ukraine, I think their coverage is far

[-] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 7 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

They were wrong at the beginning and then overcorrected and became wrong in a different way. Doesn't really inspire confidence in their reporting. I remember them swinging wildly and overcompensating and then stopped listening to them.

[-] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

What were they wrong about at first? I don't remember them saying russia could lose the war just because it was going poorly at the time, or even after losing kharkiv, they mostly reported on how much the russians understimated ukranian capacities and went in with clearly not enough people IIRC. I also don't think they've since wildly overcompensated, like they're not going "russia is going to trounce ukrainian defenses in 1 week" or something like that, they've had a "this is a long game but it's gonna end in a peace deal that's bad for ukraine" perspective for a while.

[-] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

They said no way there will be a war, Putin never would do it, that it was posturing to try and get Minsk II enforced, etc. No surprise there, most of the western left had a similar blindness and incuriosity regarding the Ukrainian civil war and the DPR. They knew nothing of the specifics or likelihood of the war because they were not in touch with those in the DPR/LPR who for months could tell something was building, and openly discussed it in their telegrams. Hell, you could follow that Texas guy on YouTube and know Russia was coming.

On Twitter they got owned by the libs, the libs were "right" in that they predicted that Russian would invade while RWN confidently stated they never would. So then they overcompensated, mimicking that neoliberal hysteria that followed Russia's intervention into the civil war. They also started talking about the destruction of Russia, the humiliation of Putin not taking Kiev, accepting the western narratives about defective Russian equipment and massive russian losses. None of this was true, Ukraine was losing at every single point of this entire war. There has never been a single moment where the odds didn't lean heavily in Russia's direction, where Russia did not outgun the Ukrainians, where Russia took heavier losses than the Ukrainians overall. Every phase of this war has been worse for Ukraine.

They eventually mellowed out it seems and regulated with the rest of the anti-imperialist left but they were obnoxious for a good while, like until summer 2023 and the botched counter-offensive. How am I supposed to trust these people to give me vibes on things when their vibes are fucked? All over the place and never accurate. Like why was Texas a more accurate source of analysis than RWN was?

[-] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 2 points 1 hour ago

Oh ok I see where you're coming from now. I didn't even consider them being wrong about putin invading in the first place cos everyone I listened to was there too, and I remember the early days they were pretty shocked in their reporting, that's the overcompensation you were talking about. I though you meant they were russia doomers in the early phase and overcompensated to being russia boosters for the late phase

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[-] BOLIBYA@hexbear.net 26 points 3 hours ago

Not directly related but I listened to a radio War Nerd episode for the very first time on Rwanda/Congo and I was sorely disappointed, the host just echoed the cookie-cutter western narrative that has been unchanged since the 90's. Notable (french) experts on the subject have firmly established in the wake of the genocide in Rwanda that the Rwandan Patriotic Front both during and after the genocide participated in mass killings of Hutus inside the Congo near the border regions that rivaled the scale and mass casualties of the Rwandan genocide. Some scholars allege that the Rwandan genocide should be better understood as a "double-genocide_ but this knowledge is nearly completely absent in Western narratives on the conflict. I've heard good things about the Podcast so I hope it was a fluke.

[-] cinnaa42@hexbear.net 13 points 3 hours ago

Their episode on the recent Pakistan-India war felt weirdly biased to me, very pro-Indian narrative. I haven't really listened as much lately. They've always had some weird preconceived notions, like one of them always goes on about how x group of people "are very tough people" or "are the only good fighters in the region" which always feels pretty odd.

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[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 31 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I don't see how damage on either country is objectively verifiable and able to be analyzed by civilians without that particular (presumably top-secret) intelligence knowledge. Israel is under strict military censorship, and while Iran certainly isn't saying everything, they are at least freely releasing the death tolls including those of murdered senior officials, so you're only going to get half the story, and that half is mainly whatever the Zionists said happen and what Iran admits happened.

Even so, the fact that Iran can, to this day, get most of their missile barrages through the nominally most protected air defense zone on the planet (in actuality, parts of Russia are almost certainly better protected) cannot simply be shrugged off for what Iran has done and is capable of doing (namely, taking down critical Israeli infrastructure like power stations, transformer stations, oil pipelines, desalination plants, etc). Yesterday was proof delivered at supersonic speeds: after nearly two years of genocide and war, there remains no physical barrier for Iran to make Israel uninhabitable and depopulated. The same is mostly true of Israel doing that to Iran (especially with nukes), which is why the war is so scary, but there is absolutely a power balance in that sense.

[-] Formerlyfarman@hexbear.net 24 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I was expecting Iran to fire 5-6 volleys to retaliate for 5 boming runs, and then leave it at that. If Iranian volleys continue, it's because air defences once online proved more successful than expected/many aircraft were destroyed by ballistic missile, so Iran is safe from further agresión. In wich case it may be the end of the entity, we will know latter today, so far it's been 5 volleys.

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[-] fever@hexbear.net 27 points 4 hours ago

Another two Iranian generals are martyred. No info on time or place of their death.

The Communications and Information Center of the General Staff of the Armed Forces announced: Following the brutal aggression of the terrorist, fake and criminal Zionist regime, General Gholamreza Mehrabi and General Mehdi Rabbani, officials of the General Staff of the Armed Forces and relicts of the eight years of sacred defense, joined the ranks of their martyred comrades.

Martyr General Gholamreza Mehrabi was the Deputy Chief of Intelligence of the General Staff of the Armed Forces and General Mehdi Rabbani was the Deputy Chief of Operations of the General Staff of the Armed Forces.

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[-] thirstyskyline@hexbear.net 45 points 5 hours ago

—❗️🇮🇱/🇮🇷/🇺🇸 BREAKING: An Iranian official tells Fars News that Iran's attacks against Israel will continue and intensify, and American bases will be razed in the coming days in an 'extensive and decisive' response to the United States, which Iran considers jointly responsible

@Middle_East_Spectator

[-] fever@hexbear.net 19 points 5 hours ago

I can't find this on the Fars News website, neither in Farsi or English.

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[-] fever@hexbear.net 32 points 5 hours ago

Do you think Iran should target homes of Israeli commanders and generals?

[-] very_poggers_gay@hexbear.net 23 points 4 hours ago

idk, i figure that israel goes after military leaders primarily for the headlines and symbolic (yet cheap) victories.

i say let Iran continue to target military infrastructure deep within Tel Aviv and throughout the entity. Keep the settlers to their furherbunkers. Shatter whatever is left of the mythology of an untouchable israel, which the entity relies on to sustain itself.

And honestly, as justified as it would be for Iran to target military leadership and their homes, part of me is concerned that it would be too easily propagandized against Iran... Because of course, how evil would it be for Iran to knowingly attack a residential building!?! The humanity!

[-] OrionsMask@hexbear.net 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Because of course, how evil would it be for Iran to knowingly attack a residential building!?! The humanity!

While this is true, when war breaks out, the usual suspects and their populaces are going to fall in line and parrot the narrative they're expected to parrot anyway, irrespective of whether it's hypocritical or non-factual. People will be very quick to forget that it was Israel who struck first. This is an easy bet I'd take all day.

So with that being said, is it worth avoiding strategic actions for a propaganda game that you stand no chance to win anyway?

Although having said THAT, I admit that it's probably much more valuable for Iran to strike high value infrastructure than people - but the latter would be sweet humiliation for Israel that they desperately need and deserve. And it also means more dead Zionazis which is always cause for celebration.

[-] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 27 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

i think they should mine the strait of hormuz and Bab al-Mandab Strait

[-] Chertstone@hexbear.net 2 points 1 hour ago

The issue with that is that doing so will piss off most countries in the world.

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[-] culpritus@hexbear.net 20 points 4 hours ago

always look on the bright side, if Iran brings the oil industry to a halt in the region, that could be a positive side effect bloomer ecoterrorism

[-] WrongOnTheInternet@hexbear.net 24 points 5 hours ago

Tit for tat is usually the most effective game approach

[-] john_brown@hexbear.net 14 points 4 hours ago

Yes absolutely

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[-] fever@hexbear.net 33 points 5 hours ago

Israel news be like 'tis but a scratch

[-] very_poggers_gay@hexbear.net 38 points 5 hours ago
[-] GladimirLenin@hexbear.net 13 points 4 hours ago

surely you dont need that many people to jerk off a dead israeli

[-] gingerbrat@hexbear.net 19 points 5 hours ago

God we're viscous aren't we

Love it i-cant

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 69 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Indian right wing Twitter calling for Tel Aviv to be nuked because the IDF posted a propaganda map showing Iranian missile range in which the entirety of Kashmir was shown as part of Pakistan.

Just absolute absolute-cinema

Weird map ngl, they really should've shown it with dotted lines like most maps.

[-] jackmaoist@hexbear.net 11 points 2 hours ago

This is the biggest betrayal Indian RW has felt in a while.

[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 6 points 2 hours ago

I guess even fascist cuckoldry has a breaking point

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 25 points 4 hours ago

You forgot the best one where some guy said "Heil Hitler if you do not correct the map of India"

[-] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 23 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Sir, Bharat stands with Israel sir! Please change to the correct map @idf @israelindia

[-] Enjoyer_of_Games@hexbear.net 33 points 6 hours ago

weird how missiles can only be fired from the center point of Iran and not from near the borders

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 19 points 5 hours ago

They put the really shithouse ones on the corners and just tip them across the border

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