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[-] EvilCartyen@feddit.dk 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

So many people on this thread are defending leashes, yet they don't exist anywhere but in the US, so...

I have never ever seen a kid leash in Denmark or any country I have visited, and yet kids here don't run around in stores acting out or disappearing.

I don't know, they seem dehumanizing and humiliating to me. If other countries can raise kids (incl kids on the spectrum) without them why can't the US?

[-] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 14 points 1 week ago

My guess is that the American working system has drained so much from their working population that leashes are required because they have no energy left to pay full attention to their children.

[-] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

That, and streets are deadly hellscapes over there a lot of the time. Driving laws are barely enforced and infrastructure is almost like it's intended to kill anyone who dares to exist outside a car.

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Out of 75 million kids 200 per year are killed by vehicles. This is roughly on par, albeit slightly higher than top EU countries.

People rightfully look at you like you're stupid when you make these statements that have nothing to do with reality. Get off the internet.


Child Pedestrian Fatalities per Million Children (under 15)

Country / Region Est. Fatalities/Year Child Pop. (0–14) Fatalities per Million

United States ~225 ~61 million ~3.7 United Kingdom ~22 ~11.5 million ~1.9 Canada ~12 ~6 million ~2.0 Australia ~11 ~4.8 million ~2.3 Germany ~20 ~11 million ~1.8 France ~18 ~11 million ~1.6 Japan ~18 ~15 million ~1.2 India ~3,000 (est.) ~360 million ~8.3 Brazil ~450 ~50 million ~9.0 European Union (EU-27) ~140–160 ~72 million ~2.0

Total EU child population (0–14): ~72 million

Result: ~2.1 deaths per million children


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[-] gens@programming.dev 14 points 1 week ago

Yea, I don't get it. Reading this thread, the people seem insane to me. Yet they are all 100% up arrows.

It's fuckin wild. I used to manage a toys department in an American burger big box store in a small town so I saw some shit. It's either parents with kids on leashes or threatening them or hitting them in the aisle, my fellow Americans often treat their kids like shit, the image of the overindulgent parent isn't really what you see around. Kids get treated like this and grow up to be adults who don't break the cycle.

[-] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 10 points 1 week ago

I can't ever remember seeing a kid wearing them here in the UK but my grandma once said she used "reins" on my dad and his siblings which would have been from late 1960s to late 1970s.

Toddlers reins are super useful if they don't want to go in a push chair and won't hold hands.

They are for toddlers freedom, not control.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 1 week ago

Me and my sister definitely had them in the early 80s. Kids are stupid, and the alternative is you strap them in a buggy if they can't be trusted to walk.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 1 week ago

They used to be quite common in the UK back in the 80s. Stops kids running into busy roads, and you can also use it to hold up an unsteady toddler.

Obviously you don't use them on like eight year olds.

You don't see them much any more.

[-] EySkibidiBabBab@feddit.dk 5 points 1 week ago

I’ve seen it once in Denmark actually. But it was a severely mentally challenged kid on a train station where the parents had them in a leash. Looked weird when you’re not used to it, but I guess I can understand that one use case.

[-] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

I'm 53 and have seen them used on different continents. My mom used one on me in Europe when we visited when I was two years old. You are completely wrong on all fronts with your comment. Have a good day.

[-] EvilCartyen@feddit.dk 8 points 1 week ago

Your American mum bringing a leash over and using it on you somewhere in Europe 51 years ago hardly makes me wrong on all fronts.

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[-] Deathray5@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 week ago

I've seen one that basically is a top with a string coming from the back. I get it, kids are stupid and distractible

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[-] fubarx@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago

I watched as our little, barely walking toddler walked away from us in a busy department store. I followed behind, hiding behind racks, to see if he would get scared and turn around. Nope. Did not turn once. Just waddled away. I had to race and grab him from behind once he stepped onto the escalator.

It was then that I really understood the need for those leashes. Had a talk with the wife and we decided against it, but it was close.

[-] NewAgeOldPerson@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

🤣🤣🤣

I'm sure it was very real moment for you. I hope, therefore, that it wasn't too cruel of me to laugh very loudly at the whole situation. Kids are.... Special.

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 24 points 1 week ago

I've always felt weird about parents who have those backpack leashes for their kids, but now that I've been living next to my in-laws for a year, who have 8 children, I understand some of them.

I refuse to take some their kids anywhere unless one of them is with my wife and I.

One would absolutely go sprinting full speed away and hide from us just because he thinks it's hilarious.

Two would wander off because they saw something shiny and their brains are like an etch-a-sketches where every time a new thought enters, the old one has to get wiped away.

One would do the exact opposite of anything we say just because he figures he can.

And three others would absolutely just wander off, not because they want to but just because kids aren't always the best at spatial awareness and simply get too far away. And would be terrified if they noticed their adults were nowhere in sight.

[-] Biskii@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 week ago

You lost a kid. That's only 7

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 7 points 1 week ago

In fairness, that's why I feel like getting a leash.

Plus the oldest is 13 and at least she's responsible enough for us to look away for a few minutes and she will still be there.

[-] danekrae@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

The last one wouldn't look both ways before crossing a street...

[-] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 3 points 1 week ago

Your kid won't look both ways before crossing a street? That's a paddlin'.

[-] CoolMatt@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

My mom would just walk away as if she didn't even have a kid with her. The panic and fear of losing my mom and having to find her again in a huge ass grocery store is what eventually kept me close from some point on

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[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Having that many children is child abuse. There’s no way they all get the parental attention they need.

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 10 points 1 week ago

Oh completely 100% agreed, and neglect isn't the only form of child abuse going on but CPS has visited them plenty of times and interviewed all the kids and neighbors (before we moved in) over custody battles with some adopted ones. (they're all related, long story with too many identifying details but some parents died and all the children are cousins and siblings) so they at least aren't doing anything that CPS cares about.

But holy shit I have never wanted to curb stomp my sister in law a-la American History X more than when I went over one day and I could hear screaming halfway down the 1/4mi driveway, and when I walked in she was in the 6 year Olds face screaming at the top of her lungs about how she's tired of telling the 6 year old to put her shoes away, four of the kids were slowly doing chores in the living room and kitchen with tears running down their faces, and I could hear the 13 year old sobbing upstairs. Their mother screamed so hard and long that she burst a blood vessel in her eye and detached the retina. As usual though the moment she saw me she stopped and pretended like she wasn't doing anything.

Since then I've had my phone on record in my pocket whenever I'm coming over unannounced just in case I can catch it. Bare minimum it will be something to show the courts when one of the kids becomes a serial killer.

Their dad is no help, he's an enabler and honestly a broken shell of a person when it comes to his wife.

Grandparents are worse than parents.

My wife watches them whenever she can, and takes them on surprise day trips to get away from their parents and some of the siblings when possible but holy shit they do not make it easy to take them anywhere.

I don't regret marrying my wife but I can honestly say my in-laws are insane and anyone could understand why I hate them.

Uhhhhhhh what was the topic again? Sorry for the vent.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

Thank you for sharing your story. The child abusers downvoting us need to see the gritty reality.

[-] lefixxx@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

I saw a gif around here some time ago. A woman was walking with their kids. When the walked passed a car ready to unpark the kid ducked in front of it. No warning, no logic, just suicide attempt.

There are kids with behavioural issues or kids on the spectrum, it doesn’t mean they or the parents are bad people. I never agreed with the kid leash and still don’t use it but after 3 years with an autistic toddler, I don’t blame anyone for using them. Would you rather that child be running lose or running circles around you? Don’t criticize people’s parenting, especially if you don’t know their situation or have never raised a special needs child.

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[-] jjmoldy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

My parents sucked but I'm grateful they at least didn't leash me like a dog. They degraded me enough already.

[-] yeather@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

My brother was leashed, but he would also run into traffic and chase animals if you let him.

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[-] boughtmysoul@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

“This leash demeans us both”

[-] Honytawk@feddit.nl 4 points 1 week ago

"This leash isn't for their protection, it is for your protection"

[-] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago

ITT: people who doesn't have kids, doesn't interact with kids, or doesn't have to raise a particularly difficult kids, talks about raising kids.

OOP sounds like an insufferable person tbh.

[-] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago
[-] protist@mander.xyz 8 points 1 week ago

Tell us about how it molded your personality

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 19 points 1 week ago

The leash was fine.

The choke chain really had an effect though.

[-] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

I don't remember it at all. I have ADHD which may be related to why they got me a leash.

[-] Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 1 week ago

I was just about to say this. The kids are likely special needs or neurodivergent.

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[-] Mac@mander.xyz 5 points 1 week ago

Ah, that explains it...

[-] jawa22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago

I remember being on one of those. They were fairly common in the 80s. I also deserved it because I was a little shit that would sprint away at the first opportunity in the grocery store.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

People are alluding to it, but not attributing the blame correctly: the "need" to leash kids is yet another negative consequence of car-dependent urban design.

[-] Kaboom@reddthat.com 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The fuck are you on about? Have you never had a kid disappear on you in a mall? There's no cars there

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[-] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

We tried that with my son. Nothing worked. We could zip tie the closures and he would be out of it in minutes. He was a runner from age three to around seven years old. The school was happy when he wanted boot and we bought him some woody boots. He couldn't run as fast. OP there is a POS. He hasn't lived it and lacks the empathy to understand.

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