So on one hand: Harris won NY State by a 10% margin.

On the other hand: if vote machines were tampered with then it likely doesn't stop there.

I wonder if this is Musks "you wouldnt have won the election without me" quote.

I'm very much against conspiracy theories, especially concerning our elections which are administered by many many independent entities. I was very concerned as I watched electronic voting machines - especially without paper trails - become more and more popular over the past 30 years. Even more as the industry consolidated and it came down to a handful of private, for-profit manufacturers.

The thing I've read about that is keeping the door of conspiracy open in my mind is the "drop off" rate, which has to do with the number of "President only" ballots, where only the President is chosen, and no down ballot votes are cast.

Apparently Trump's ballots have an unusually high - like statistically unlikely - drop off. And it's either only in or mostly in/more pronounced in swing states.

Even Chris Titus picked it up (3 hrs total, sorry)

https://youtu.be/UgIay64Obcs - Part 1 https://youtu.be/t-yr-Mgkhm0 - Part 2

I do believe people were calling me alarmist for noticing strange patterns.

Like winning all 7 swing states? Your fucking kidding me right?

To paraphrase Bush v Gore over negative votes in Florida after the SC sent the case to a lower court and it was appealed back to them

it’s been so long since the election that it would be unfair to change the outcome now

I always had a feeling that the election was a bit too quickly decided. I’ve said before that in the coming months and years after the 2024 election we would find out something fishy was happening.

Why didn't the democrats demand hand recounts when the election was initially called? It felt like they all just rolled over and accepted defeat.

This stuff has been going on for a loooong time:

Interview with Stephen Spoonamore on of the electronic voting issues that have been raised for a while now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRW3Bh8HQic

if you want to jump right to his explanation/comparison to his work with securing credit card transactions against "man in the middle" attacks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=BRW3Bh8HQic#t=873

The filing also includes the revealing deposition of the late Michael Connell. Connell served as the IT guru for the Bush family and Karl Rove. Connell ran the private IT firm GovTech that created the controversial system that transferred Ohio's vote count late on election night 2004 to a partisan Republican server site in Chattanooga, Tennessee owned by SmarTech. That is when the vote shift happened, not predicted by the exit polls, that led to Bush's unexpected victory. Connell died a month and a half after giving this deposition in a suspicious small plane crash.

Additionally, the filing contains the contract signed between then-Ohio Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell and Connell's company, GovTech Solutions. Also included that contract a graphic architectural map of the Secretary of State's election night server layout system.

Cliff Arnebeck, lead attorney in the King Lincoln case, exchanged emails with IT security expert Stephen Spoonamore. Arnebeck asked Spoonamore whether or not SmarTech had the capability to "input data" and thus alter the results of Ohio's 2004 election. Spoonamore responded: "Yes. They would have had data input capacities. The system might have been set up to log which source generated the data but probably did not."

Spoonamore explained that "they [SmarTech] have full access and could change things when and if they want."

Arnebeck specifically asked "Could this be done using whatever bypass techniques Connell developed for the web hosting function." Spoonamore replied "Yes."

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/2319:new-court-filing-reveals-how-the-2004-ohio-presidential-election-was-hacked

Breakdown of why Electronic voting in general is incredibly insecure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3_0x6oaDmI

Documentary going into Clint Curtis's story:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhBtfiRKaVY

(the guy from this video):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEzY2tnwExs

Fractional Voting:

http://blackboxvoting.org/fraction-magic-1/

HBO documentary Hacking Democracy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7W7rHxTsH0

Statistically it is very unlikely this would happen given the votes for other Democrats down ticket. It would be like betting on an old horse to win a race and somehow winning.

OK, next question: Let's say we do a 'recount' at this hour, assuming the evidence isn't already lost, what then?

Think he's going to go, ohh my bad?

Think he's going to leave willingly?

Think the court case will even be appropriately handled once it goes to the SCOTUS.

Think the SCOTUS will even hear it?

How is it 100 days later, we just now hear about this?

I think the stupidity of the electorate is being vastly underestimated here.

always thought it suspicious there was soooo many reds when the final count was in.

So wait a minute here guys, you're telling me that the man who was convicted by a unanimous jury of fraud (cheating) in the 2016 election, the same guy who called the governors of various states and asked them to 'find him some votes' in 2020, did not run a clean honest campaign in 2024???

Get the EFF out of here!!

I remember asking a few weeks after the election if anyone at all was talking about it being rigged. It seemed at the time everyone just accepted the result. Only in the past month or so have I started seeing talk of it.

our election was, literally, stolen. Trump and his fascists have spent years calling his loss to Biden “stolen” which ultimately harmed any real attempts at calling out future election results. many statisticians are sounding the alarm bells—something is wrong. the data doesn’t lie and the voting heavily implies manipulation. there is a group investigating our election results and making their findings public. they are very concerned with what they are uncovering.

After HitlerPig's 2025 State of the Union speech, new Democratic senator Elissa Slotkin gave the Democratic response, and tried to sell the idea that millions of people in her state voted for her for Senator, but Trump for president.

This past weekend, Amy Klobuchar tried to sell that same fantasy on Meet The Press - that millions in her state voted for her, but also voted for HitlerPig.

I'm sure there are a few people who split their vote, but they have to be as rare as white squirrels. There are supposed to be millions of them, so many that HitlerPig even won EVERY battleground state (and exceptionally unlikely outcome), but I've never heard one actual voter claim they voted a straight Democratic ticket, except HitlerPig for president. It sounds ridiculous when you actually say it.