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[-] randomquery@hexbear.net 43 points 17 hours ago

What would happen if capital succeeded in smashing the Republic of Soviets? There would set in an era of the blackest reaction in all the capitalist and colonial countries, the working class and the oppressed peoples would be seized by the throat, the positions of international communism would be lost.

Joseph Stalin

[-] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 25 points 17 hours ago

Rise in anti-abortion sentiment is inevitable when there's an all-out campaign by the ruling class against bodily autonomy laundered through gender conservative reaction against trans people, but I'm still surprised by the age breakdown here

[-] Chertstone@hexbear.net 15 points 15 hours ago

A lot millennials back in 201x were extremely confident that right-wing reactionary thought would somehow "die out" and they dont need to do nothing. Guess what, those reactionaries have a massive "youth outreach" to recruit new members and they noticed those overconfident statements.

[-] Monstertruckenjoyer@hexbear.net 15 points 15 hours ago

It was pretty common to be right wing when I was a teen and early 20's. Most grew out of it when we got smarter and experienced the "real world"

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 13 points 15 hours ago

A lot millennials back in 201x were extremely confident that right-wing reactionary thought would somehow "die out" and they dont need to do nothing.

sicko-wistful

[-] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 26 points 18 hours ago

That's crazy. I wonder how much of it is in tandem with young people's religious revival.

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 25 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

My edgy atheist phase continues to be vindicated

[-] Hestia@hexbear.net 16 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Cringy atheist phase or cringy religious phase? I’ll take the one that doesn’t support violating women’s rights, thank you very much

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 7 points 15 hours ago

The whole “lol atheists are neckbeards and they have bad taste in hats” has to be one of the most astroturfed character assassinations of an entire movement.

Literally just “being smart is bad because it makes you a neeeeeeeeeerd!” but repackaged into less dorky language.

[-] Barabas@hexbear.net 8 points 16 hours ago

I mean, looking at the big names of the new atheist movement I think both support violating women’s rights.

Though they’ve turned into ‘cultural Christians’ now.

[-] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 17 points 16 hours ago

I’m still baffled by this. I was an atheist because I was anti-sexist and anti-racist. It was the racism and sexism of Christians that made me an atheist.

I don’t know how you end up an atheist in a Christian majority country and continue being sexist and racist or how you target Islam more than Christianity.

If you want to be sexist and racist, just be a Christian! It’s right there! It’s the easy default option here!

[-] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 10 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

It's definitely odd, but I think I have a good insight.

I fell into that pipeline, and I think it happened in part because atheism and online atheism had that initial 'facts and logic' streak - relying on 'biology', and especially evolutionary biology (that creationists deny).

When issues of gender came to the front, an appeal to evolutionary biology made a lot of sense to me, as it was a 'language' I spoke - far more than social biology.

But that's not all. It's the free-speech and liberalism angle too - lots of atheists rallied against the Christianity in schools, in law, and the political system, etc etc - to an end that being blasphemous was the rebellious thing to do. To be able to criticise god is free speech, and for a time it did seem quite transgressive. To judge these Christian systems in the West, you inevitably must eventually critique Islam too (rightfully so) - the difficulty is that Islam is so wrapped up in imperialist messaging, foreign policy, and decades of islamophobia, that it was susceptible to highjacking by those who wanted to use it as such. It's also difficult because in most islamic countries, the west has funded far right Islam to be the very worst version of itself, and provoked it to expressing itself violently. It's this history that New Atheism was missing too.

Look at the various crossovers - Milo Yiannopoulous bridged being an atheist, who was also gay, who was also was an antifeminist. Hitchens was an atheist antifeminist liberal, who switched sides in the Iraq war to be pro war. Peterson was free speech. Dawkins was a scientist, atheist, but anti feminist, and islamophobic.

It all became a real muddle, but each character in this era did have one attractive part of their calling card that sucked people in, and once you were in, the algorithm did the rest of the work and kept feeding you worse and worse.

When I was 13, I was arguing with Christians online about being pro choice, pro gay, pro blasphemy - I was a very progressive 13 year old. But with only instincts guiding me, my 'values' aligned most with libertarianism - particularly saying whatever I wanted to say, and judging other cultures for not allowing a level of 'freedom' to women and queer people - essentially believing in one part rainbow imperialism (before the trans rights debate really took off), and one part snarky British liberal intellectualism. This just sent me down the wrong path.

In hindsight, what I needed was a history lesson. Atheism will devolve into this sort of shit if it is not accompanied by anti-imperialism. As soon as I found anti imperialism, the world suddenly made sense, and I shed my manosphere exoskeleton in a matter of months (and years - I'm sure it's still an ongoing process to purge it all).

[-] huf@hexbear.net 2 points 15 hours ago

because they still want to own women, they just dont want to own them religiously.

elevatorgate was the watershed moment for the "atheist movement".

[-] Hestia@hexbear.net 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Watching how the atheism community evolves over time is interesting bc you see the schisms between people who actually espouse atheism and those who embrace the ‘cultural Christian’ archetype. It’s pretty obvious early on in their careers which path they will end up following

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 3 points 16 hours ago

Hell turning christian like russell brand and hirsi ali.

[-] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 3 points 16 hours ago

Or they only care about women when it's white women, or Muslim women when it allows them to shit on Muslims as a whole.

Idk if selective misogyny is all that much better than the original flavor.

[-] Chertstone@hexbear.net 4 points 15 hours ago

The edgy atheist turned into the tradcath convert.

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 3 points 15 hours ago

These young dudes seemingly just go straight from babby to reactionary

[-] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 11 points 15 hours ago

This is probably related to the "Nobody has sex these days" statistics, because, like there's a very obvious self-interested reason for young men who are having sexual relations to be supportive of abortion, that they don't want the responsibility of being dads

[-] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 36 points 19 hours ago
[-] AntifaSuperWombat@hexbear.net 22 points 17 hours ago

That‘s the first time I’ve ever seen boomer men perform the best in a survey about human rights. I wonder how much of this is genuine concern about women’s wellbeing and how much of it is about not having to pay child support?

[-] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 5 points 10 hours ago
[-] AntifaSuperWombat@hexbear.net 3 points 9 hours ago

It would be even better if young men would consider women as someone to look up to too.

[-] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 19 points 17 hours ago

A few almost certainly, but also the boomer age bracket is likely to both a) have had more actual life experience around abortion, having children, and when it's more or less responsible to do so and b) will have stronger memories of when abortion was considerably harder to access and the effects of that.

[-] Chertstone@hexbear.net 9 points 15 hours ago

Euro boomers are better on women's right than american ones, due to second wave feminism being more successful. The UK elected Thatcher as one of the first female leaders in the western world for this very reason. Also why terfism is so large in the UK.

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 10 points 17 hours ago

I assume abortion is just a normal thing to most of them and opposing it is like opposing wisdom tooth surgery or something

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 21 points 18 hours ago

The sharp decrease compared to older groups is what gets me

[-] Barabas@hexbear.net 21 points 18 hours ago

It seems to be getting more ‘controversial’ among young women as well. While more believe it should be legal in all cases, there is a high uptick in people who believe it should be illegal.

[-] BanSwitch2Buyers@hexbear.net 23 points 18 hours ago

Right-wing religious women who think adopting male right-wing views is going to protect them somehow.

[-] Chertstone@hexbear.net 8 points 15 hours ago

young women experiencing alienation from labor but placing the blame on feminism and longing for the "easy" life is a bigger part.

[-] BanSwitch2Buyers@hexbear.net 2 points 15 hours ago

Pretty much the same thing.

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 18 points 18 hours ago

Mark my words.... The loneliness epidermic will only increase to diabolical levels. It ain't the only reason but how many of these people in this age group are single I wonder cringe

[-] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 4 points 10 hours ago

"The country that is more developed [...] only shows, to the less developed, the image of its own future."

South Korea showing the rest of the world the way into the incel republic.

[-] Flyberius@hexbear.net 39 points 20 hours ago

The Tate-ification of young men has been horrifically effective on Terf island.

[-] SchillMenaker@hexbear.net 10 points 17 hours ago

I want him to be aborted so bad.

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Can someone explain the psychology on why being a delinquent is so attractive to normies? Like why is good universally despised and evil is universally beloved?

Even among Brits, why does the Amerikkkan culture of being a mannerless scumbag appeal to them so much?

[-] Flyberius@hexbear.net 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I think it's cargo cult behaviour in the case of stupid, powerless, losers. They see powerful people being evil and think that by emulating that behaviour they too will become powerful

[-] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 9 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

"men" need to be assessed for mysogyny and sent to re-education camps before being let out in polite society.

[-] Tommasi@hexbear.net 22 points 20 hours ago

Shut down the uk until further notice

[-] boiledfrog@hexbear.net 17 points 18 hours ago

The further notice being never

[-] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 15 points 18 hours ago

just please, someone go pull the giant plug from under the island so it can finally sink negative

[-] boiledfrog@hexbear.net 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Heading to the south pole to light a fire so the icecaps melt faster

[-] huf@hexbear.net 7 points 17 hours ago

back into the azure main whence they came!

[-] Blakey@hexbear.net 6 points 17 hours ago

say goodbye to nonce island

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 6 points 16 hours ago

Oh of course, chuds win the culture wars as always.

Why does everyone love these douchebags? It’s like Ted Bundy over and over.

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