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God help them. The slaughter to come is probably beyond our imagining

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[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 205 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The Israelis have the power to end the political and economic conditions (which they created and maintain) which lead to violence

The Palestinians do not

If you're saddened or angered by the deaths of Israeli civilians, you can take those complaints straight to the Israeli government. Any handwringing about violence committed by the Palestinians is de facto support for the illegal occupation of Palestinian land and the apartheid state of Israel.

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[-] jack@hexbear.net 196 points 1 year ago

Biden says this is "unprovoked". The USA is a nation of lies.

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[-] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 182 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This thread is an embarrassment, I can't believe there are people on Hexbear handwringing about violence against settler civilians. Did Native Americans never kill colonizer civilians? Are we going to start condemning the Haitian revolutionaries?

Israelis are constantly pretending they live in fear of being killed by Palestinian "terrorists". Have they considered fucking leaving, which is an option the Palestinians don't even have? No Israeli children would be in a position to be killed in the fighting or held hostage if their colonizer parents hadn't put them there. These children are victims, but they're victims of their colonizer parents and colonizer politicians.

You want to talk about children being held hostage to ensure compliance from adults? How many Palestinian children are there in the open air prison of Gaza, where 2/3 of the population are under 25 years old?

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[-] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 174 points 1 year ago

I have nothing but unwavering support for the Palestinian people, but watching this is like watching John Brown pick up the sword and march on Harpers Ferry. Nothing but the noblest motive but I can't imagine this ending remotely well. May God be with all Palestinians today, they'll need him

[-] StalinwasaGryffindor@hexbear.net 104 points 1 year ago

Same, nothing but support for the freedom fighters, but I am sick thinking of the brutal vengeance I know Israel will mete out

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[-] TheGamingLuddite@hexbear.net 173 points 1 year ago

slowly removing my "prolong the ukraine war for 10,000 years" hat and replacing it with a hat that says "i condemn all violence"

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[-] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 157 points 1 year ago

Liberals talking about Hamas: They are all Islamic extremists, it doesn't matter how much Palestinians think they need their help.

Liberals talking about Ukrainian nazis: But they're being attacked! They need all the help they can get!

[-] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 100 points 1 year ago

Gee I wonder what's different us-foreign-policy

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[-] Bakzik@hexbear.net 155 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lot's of "comrades" in here are full of first world brainworms.

Let's pretend that the Vietnam war or Cuba's revolution were happening today. If we follow their arguments, they would totally oppose the expresions of resistance and anticolonialism because "people are going to die, so we just need to stop the use of violence".

Like Mandaela once said: "We know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians."

So no need to keep the "whataboutism" going. At the end of the day, is just a defense to keep the status quo and, by extension, the Israelí apartheid state...

fidel-sarcastic

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[-] Cromalin@hexbear.net 137 points 1 year ago

god i feel sick. 198 palestinians reported dead already, compared to 40 israelis killed in the initial attack. this is only going to get worse, and ghouls on twitter are naturally saying they want to bomb gaza back into the stone age

[-] Rojo27@hexbear.net 97 points 1 year ago

What's left to bomb? Fucking cretins may still well just take the mask off and say they want Palestinians wiped off the face of the earth.

[-] D3FNC@hexbear.net 100 points 1 year ago

Raise your hand if you have not already heard an Israeli say this though

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[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 134 points 1 year ago

Journalist: M. Ben M'Hidi, don't you think it's a bit cowardly to use women's baskets and handbags to carry explosive devices that kill so many innocent people?

Ben M'Hidi: And doesn't it seem to you even more cowardly to drop napalm bombs on defenseless villages, so that there are a thousand times more innocent victims? Of course, if we had your airplanes it would be a lot easier for us. Give us your bombers, and you can have our baskets.

-The Battle of Algiers

[-] sandinista209@hexbear.net 133 points 1 year ago

The gaslighting is and will be insane. Americans really think that things like this happen for no reason and that Israel is the innocent victim. Sickening.

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[-] joaomarrom@hexbear.net 132 points 1 year ago

I'm very afraid of what comes next for the Palestinian people, but regardless of what happens next, Israel has been dealt a fucking incredible blow to its international reputation. This is a country whose main export is highly sophisticated systems of oppression. If you have a nagging problem with some pesky minority, Israel is your "consultant" of choice.

Now here we are, watching as some of the most violently oppressed, downtrodden people in the entire world do deftly orchestrated commando raids on lawnmower engine powered paragliders, surprising literally the entire world. They have been training to do this under Israel's watch for god knows how long, and the IDF was none the wiser. How did they pull this off?

How can you still claim to develop the most sophisticated surveillance systems and to have the best-trained military in the world, when shit like this happens? How do you even recover from this? This is unprecedented, a paradigm shift, we're watching history in the making here.

Absolutely uncritical support for the heroic Palestinian efforts.

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[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 132 points 1 year ago
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[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 131 points 1 year ago

Liberals when Ukraine is flying swastikas: I SLEEP

Liberals when Palestinians have not only a moral but legally justified under international law war to defend themselves and push out colonizers: REAL SHIT ?

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[-] wombat@hexbear.net 130 points 1 year ago

all palestinian violence against israel is self-defense

[-] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 130 points 1 year ago

It's infuriating how the attacks on the mosques and random missiles fired into Gaza from just a month ago are conveniently forgotten. Attention spans are even shorter than usual when when fascists on thr internet are calling for genocide. I'm all keyed up, but all I can think to do in the US rn is to desecrate some flags.

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[-] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 125 points 1 year ago

May the evil terrorist state of Israel be erased from the face of this earth and Palestine be free to thrive as a nation.

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[-] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 122 points 1 year ago

Seen some libs already saying that the Palestinian deaths before this were just “collateral damage” and this is targeted execution of smol bean Israeli settlers.

us-foreign-policy

[-] wombat@hexbear.net 93 points 1 year ago
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[-] CDommunist@hexbear.net 122 points 1 year ago

reddit-logo when Cubans seize private property

honk-enraged monke-rage

reddit-logo when Israelis seize private property

comfy

[-] Goblinmancer@hexbear.net 117 points 1 year ago

I dont understand settlers, mfers volunteer to leave their comfortable aparterments in brooklyn to steal and live in someone else house in a desert. Like wtf is wrong with them.

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[-] artificialset@hexbear.net 114 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

death to israel, uncritical support to the palestinian resistance palestine-strong

[-] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 113 points 1 year ago

Just gonna reiterate that I hate the settler colonial apartheid "state" of Israel.

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[-] ComradeLove@hexbear.net 112 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Back in the late 80s Israel chose to support what became Hamas to oppose the secular left of the PLO. Blowback is a bitch.

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[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 112 points 1 year ago

Netanyahu just said that he'll commit genocide in Gaza and told Palestinians to leave or die. And Biden sent him 8 billion dollars for it.

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[-] ComradeLove@hexbear.net 110 points 1 year ago

Reddit world news thread on this is making my head explode. So many people that have no knowledge of history, but this one made me laugh

I really don't think Hamass [sic] knows what it's done

Yes, what they truly need is a random redditor to explain the politics of their actions to them.

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[-] Huldra@hexbear.net 109 points 1 year ago

Horrible pit in my stomach combined with burning fury in my chest at the disgusting worm hypocrites of the whole western world publicly announcing their committment to white supremacy and colonialism.

[-] StalinForTime@hexbear.net 108 points 1 year ago

In Israel, the yearly open warfare against Gaza is known as 'mowing the lawn'.

Make of that what you will.

[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 108 points 1 year ago

Western “leftists” showing their whole ass. I’ve got a nice luxury resort for genocide apologists right herebarbara-pit

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[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 104 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://nitter.net/YousefMunayyer/status/1710777795159228886

https://twitter.com/YousefMunayyer/status/1710777795159228886

Israeli Knesset member from Netanyahu's party calls for mass ethnic cleansing.

"One Goal: Nakba! A Nakba that will overshadow the Nakba of 1948"

Least genocidal Israeli politician

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[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 104 points 1 year ago

Israeli medias report that Egyptian mediators have informed Israel that in case of any invasion of the Gaza strip, Hezbollah will join the fight

Egypt has allegedly warned Israel to not commit to a ground invasion of Gaza in retaliation of the Palestinian invasion of Israel, or there would be consquences.

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[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 102 points 1 year ago

of course Modi is defending his fascist ally. pathetic

goes to show how much India has fallen since 1991 ussr-cry

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[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 101 points 1 year ago

Israel Defense Forces confirmed the capture of the Former commander of the Israeli army's Gaza division in 2022, Brigadier General Nimrod Aloni, this morning at his home by Palestinian militants.

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[-] Ocommie63@lemmygrad.ml 100 points 1 year ago

Uncritical support for the brave people of Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸✊✊✊✊

[-] StalinForTime@hexbear.net 99 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Netanyahu has just said live on television that they will 'turn Gaza into a deserted island'.

I'm hearing very indirectly along grapevines that among Israelis, including liberals, the mood is becoming - and I quote verbatim - "kill them all".

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[-] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 98 points 1 year ago

I was grinning ear to ear at first. Isreal obviously must fall and the Palestinians have a just cause. But then I remembered that this isn't a goddamn Marvel movie and this won't go without the IDF and US gunning for wholesale civilian slaughter. Now it's just hope and worry.

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[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 94 points 1 year ago

I don't like Hamas but it's entirely the Zionists fault that this organisation exists. They forced Palestinians into subhuman conditions which led to people Embracing religious extremism with a mix of national resistance.

[-] star_wraith@hexbear.net 125 points 1 year ago

Israel and the U.S. also empowered Hamas in the 80s because they didn’t want the secular leftist PLO gaining any more traction

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[-] Huldra@hexbear.net 93 points 1 year ago

Disgusting beyond words seeing liberals treat Palestinians like they are cattle to be transported and slaughtered at will by Israel, and that this is a preferable state to be in compared to the obvious alternative of Israel switching into committing an immediate genocide.

I can only scarcely begin to imagine what the lives of the people of Gaza feels like, and how they think about their situation on a day to day basis.

But the alternatives here seem clear, either they win, or Israel crosses a line that forces external intervention, or just the entire world is either actively supportive of or passively accepting of the death of every single Palestinian living under occupation, and if the last thing is true, then what do you possibly do with that?

The cattle option is not a non-genocidal conclusion either, and is already proven beyond doubt that the rest of the world finds it tolerable.

[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 92 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The Palestinian resistance used hand gliders to enter occupied territory.

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