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[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 38 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

"What's your advice?"

"My advice is to not take my advice. That'll be 63 million dollars, please."

"Certainly Sir! Money well spent!"

You have to understand why they are employed though - somebody stands to gain from doing some thing, so the way they get to justify doing that thing is to hire these people, so they come in, deliver a report that says the thing is the best thing to do with graphs that go up, and it happens, McKinsey gets paid, the beneficiary gets what they want and life goes on.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

That plus there's a massive incentive for overpaid executives to farm out any actual decision-making to consultants. They could lose their cushy jobs if they did something unpopular that made the news and hurt stock prices. But if the decision was promoted by an expensive consulting firm, that launders the blame. It hurts the business in a fundamental way, obviously, but publicly traded companies have not been very focused on fundamentals up until lately. Tighter monetary policy should have changed this, but the paradigm has been slow to shift for many.

[-] Auth@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

That would unironically be good advice which means he couldnt give it.

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

But if he did, would they take it?

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 36 points 2 weeks ago

Well, consulting is often used because they need an answer to a question. That may be open-ended like:

"What moves should we make to expand our business?"

But other times they just want confirmation:

"Should we merge with Discovery?" (Sure, I guess. Here are some reasons you could. cha-ching)

"Should we split with Discovery?" (Sure, I guess. Here are some reasons you could. cha-ching)

Other times they just need to pay people to give them excuses to lay off people. McKinsey's always available for that.

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

When Chipotle got a new CEO (Brian Niccol, who has since become the Starbucks CEO) a few years back, they were headquartered in Denver. But the CEO lived in Newport Beach. So they brought in a consulting management firm to examine where the best place in the country was for them to have their corporate headquarters.

After weeks of analysis - surprise, surprise - they determined that the best place they could possibly have a corporate headquarters was in Newport Beach, where the CEO lived.

So they fired most of their corporate workers and moved the office to be closer to the CEOs house.

[-] Soup@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

“Sorry we don’t do remote work and you’ll have to come into the office.”

“Counterpoint: …”

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

McKinsey:

For when you have no fucking clue how to do your job, and want authoritative, plausible deniability about that.

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 4 points 2 weeks ago

Obviously you should keep paying my $1.3 million annual salary. We just paid McKinsey $30 million to say how vital my department is

[-] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago

Other times they just need to pay people to give them excuses to lay off people. McKinsey’s always available for that.

What would you say... you do here?

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Get paid to do the work of someone who could be employed for a reasonable salary, but the board or CEO wants the answer to come from someone outside the company to avoid taking any blame.

[-] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

Look, I already told you: I deal with the goddamn customers so the engineers don't have to. I have people skills. I am good at dealing with people! Can't you understand that!? What the hell is wrong with you people!!

[-] veroxii@aussie.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago
[-] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

Naga-naga-nagonna work here anymore, anyway

[-] Thunderbird4@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like a job that would be easy to replace with ChatGPT.

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[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

TLC used to be The Learning Channel. Before it was “here’s a bunch of children who are being sexually abused behind the camera,” it was educational outreach. Vocational training. Satellite college courses for people in Alaska and Appalachia.

Then Discovery bought it. Fuck Discovery.

[-] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 weeks ago

One of my favorite channels. I liked learning new stuff. Factual stuff. Not conspiracy theories disguised as history.

Why do I associate TLC with, like, Trading Spaces and other domestic not-quite-a-game shows like that? Am I conflating it with something else? Also I haven't had "television" in decades now.

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Because that’s the slop it turned into. It was a place for documentaries and educational content, just like MTV used to have music. But watching Kate torment her brood of children or Honey BooBoo eat sketti makes the kind of money airing a college lecture doesn’t.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Yep. I thought for ages that it was a spinoff of discovery but no, it was a whole thing that went back to the 80s. After Discovery acquired it blam.

[-] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 32 points 2 weeks ago

Consulting services are vital because they improving corporate synergy by utilizing market solutions and relocating potential where it is needed most.

[-] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 weeks ago

Don’t forget that they also leverage institutional assets to extract value using best practices!

[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 weeks ago

We'll circle back to that.

[-] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

Can I talk to you offline?

[-] TachyonTele@piefed.social 9 points 2 weeks ago

Then I apply an herb-mint facial mask, which I leave on for 10 minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine. I always use an aftershave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturiser, then an anti-ageing eye balm followed by a final moisturising protective lotion.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 27 points 2 weeks ago

In, fire 30 percent of the workforce, new logo, boom, out.

You are now a fully trained management consultant.

[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

Lean leader certified

[-] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago
[-] sepi@piefed.social 13 points 2 weeks ago

Isn't the google ceo a McKinsey stooge?

[-] aramova@infosec.pub 12 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, he is. It explains a lot.

[-] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

I don't care if you're wrong, I will propagate it anyway.

[-] MimicJar@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

I mean no need to spread misinformation. This information in easily verifiable.

Sundar Pichai, Google's CEO, worked at McKinsey for ~2 years and then joined Google in 2004, eventually working his way into the position of CEO.

Pichai's fuck ups are unlikely a result of McKinsey, at least not directly. That isn't to say that McKinsey is completely off the hook. They work with plenty of "top" companies and I'm certain Google is one of them.

[-] Justas@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

Pichai was so bad, even McKinsey didn't want to keep him.

[-] sepi@piefed.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

They certainly hire some "talent"

[-] A7thStone@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

So is Buttigieg, but sharing that information seems to be unpopular.

[-] KarlHungus42@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

They've developed a perpetual consulting loop. Genius.

[-] merdaverse@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

From my (fortunately) brief experience in software consulting, I can confirm that is an important unwritten rule of the job. It doesn't matter what exactly you sell to customers, as long as they are willing to buy it and come back. It explains why a lot of software is dogshit.

[-] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Fuck McKinsey.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

C'mon now...

If they can't charge all that money to be wrong. How can they pay the US government the $722,000,000.00 they owe?

The Justice Department said McKinsey Africa had received credit for cooperating with its investigation and conducting anti-corruption training for employees. The $122,850,000 McKinsey has agreed to fork up includes a penalty it will pay in South Africa.

McKinsey is also in talks with the Justice Department to pay more than $600 million to resolve a separate investigation into the consulting firm's work helping opioid manufacturers boost sales that allegedly contributed to a deadly addiction epidemic, people familiar with the matter have told Reuters.

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/mckinsey-africa-pay-122-million-south-africa-bribery-scheme-us-justice-dept-says-2024-12-05/

You think Purdue Pharma could have made all those ~~drug addicts~~ customers without McKinsey pushing pills for them?

Won't some think of the Billionaires stock portfolios!

[-] meowmeowbeanz@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago

The real skill isn't the advice - it's convincing executives that contradicting your previous $100M recommendation somehow validates hiring you again.

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