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He's always wore sketchers. Like since he was 4. Recently, he got really emotionally taking about shoes he wanted for middle school. He said if he doesn't get Nikes he's going to get teased. Great fucking marketing work Nike.

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[-] oce@jlai.lu 35 points 2 weeks ago

Did you try to teach him to be proud of his independence and differences? Maybe you can work with him on nice come backs against the teasing.

[-] ElderReflections@fedia.io 48 points 2 weeks ago

As far as I remember (25 years ago), this doesn't work. Kids just don't appreciate witty comebacks

[-] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 weeks ago

If anything they lean in and double down.

[-] TammyTobacco@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

It works if they're not comebacks, but actually hurtful insults.

They go hard, you go harder.

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[-] dil@lemmy.zip 23 points 2 weeks ago

Comebacks dont matter when you can just point at the shoes and call him broke (im not a teen anymore but come on guys lol, thats when you fit in to avoid issues or have issues, no magical way out)

[-] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

There is a way out, but it involves not caring what classmates think. That's a high bar for a lot of kids, especially in middle school. Kids have to come to that conclusion on their own. No amount of adults telling them "you shouldn't care" will change things.

By high school I found social success after not caring what others thought. But I had been bullied my whole school experience up til that point, so by high school I had run out of fucks to give. In other words, I learned the hard way, but that's something every teen has to figure out for themselves.

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[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I don't know about now, but back in the 90s the magical out was that you punched them in the face.

Back then the concept of a school shooting didn't exist, and parents didn't threaten to sue the school every 5 minutes.

So teachers would just let the fights go.

"Oh, Billy tried bullying Bobby, and now Bobby punched Billy in the face? Eh....call me when they break bones and spill blood. I'm going to go make popcorn."

These days? I'm sure both kids would get expelled.

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[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 23 points 2 weeks ago

Oh man it’s like every out of touch bad advice I was given as a kid came back.

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[-] dil@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago

he could be but hes gonna get roasted for sketchers til college probably

[-] BorgDrone@feddit.nl 3 points 2 weeks ago

But it’s not “his independence” if it wasn’t his choice to buy those shoes. You cannot be proud of your own choices when they weren’t your own choices.

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[-] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago

I tried, His Mom agreed and already bought him shoes.

[-] BossDj@piefed.social 28 points 2 weeks ago

One of mine is in high school, and as much as I hate the confirming culture, especially because it's led by morons and marketing, I choose the same path. I allowed my (now high school kid) to participate in all the awful crap that I would never do myself when she felt middle school pressure. She was in the popular kids group.

The caveat has been it all comes with extreme education from my end. Not demeaning or condescending. I over-preach about marketing/ads/influencers and constantly question why people make the choices they do. I question everything though. "How do you know that?" often leads back to tick tock.

In my experience, the OTHER kids are now getting smarter as they age. Mine is now able to live her life how she wants and is still with that same group , and the kids (I shit you not) look to her for purchasing advice. The vanity kinda goes away as their brains leave that dumb social hierarchy age.

Note: My kids are/were decked out in Nike. We live by the world headquarters and a good chunk of the kids' parents work there. If that isn't peer pressure, I dunno what is!

[-] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago

It's not a Nike thing. It's a kid thing. Kids are dicks, sorry

[-] DistrictSIX@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Is that why Apple has got the US by the balls because people want to avoid the dreaded green bubble in iMessage? I'm not from the US so that might be me misunderstanding the situation, but I've been told that even many adults in the US view that as a valid reason to avoid anything that's not an iphone, because of some social stigma attached to the green bubble.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

As far as I hear every time: Yep

  • A european
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[-] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 weeks ago

When I was young (in the late 80's) it was Air Jordans.

But, on top of being teased for not having them, you would also get jumped by kids who wanted to steal them from you.

[-] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 weeks ago

Happened to me. Got Nikes, got teased because they were not a good enough model. Kids are monsters.

[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Yup. Learned that one back in the 3rd grade. This stuff is hard if you're not experienced enough to know how people work.

On the upside, I learned that one cannot buy their way into other's good graces, especially if they're going to require you to modify your behavior to get there; they're lying and that was never the issue. On the downside: holy shit that hurts once it goes wrong the first time.

As an adult I can also appreciate that there are situations where you can "buy your way in" to a club or status of some sort. IMO, those situations are generally not worth it to begin with, requiring an never-ending stream of cash to keep up appearances. Plus, it surrounds you with other people that also believe, and are invested, in the program. It's a recipe for elitism at best, and a big 'ol grift at worst. Better friends and relationships can be had for $0 everywhere else.

[-] laranis@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, he's not getting made fun of for his shoes. They're just a convenient target of ridicule. Son is about to learn a life lesson.

I'm sorry. People are shit.

[-] FireWire400@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I always had Chucks, not because I didn't wanna get teased mind you I just thought they were cool. Kids teased me for different things anyway.

But man, they never really lasted that long. One to one and a half years of daily use, and they doubled in price in the last ~15 years (which maybe isn't that much but I feel the quality went down a bit).

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I've always liked the style of chucks, but yeah. They fall apart faster than wet tissue paper.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I remember being 4 or 5 back in the 70s, my mom tried to put me in Converse, I refused to wear them calling them "clown shoes". LOL.

I feel vindicated.

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[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

I always knew shoes weren't going to save my kids from bullying, so I got them karate instead.

The bullying still happened, until they decided it was time for it to stop. Then it stopped.

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[-] LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago

I don't know if this is a bad idea, but recently all the Chinese manufacturers spoke out about how much the products they make actually cost, you can find the exact warehouse that makes them, and order directly from them, at a ridiculous mark down. Like a 10th of the price, or less. Might be worth some research. I see Adidas sambas for $10, including postage. They're all there. They just don't have the actual name label on them yet, because that's all they do when they reach the distributor, though, so might be useless to you.

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[-] LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

I was too lazy to actually go find the specific warehouses. I just downloaded taobao, it's partially in English now. I've seen and saved a few tiktoks with descriptions of the locations and which places do which items / brands. I just genuinely don't have time to deep dive and do proper research, though.

[-] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

Probably aliexpress or something

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 10 points 2 weeks ago

I love Skechers.

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah this is a Nike problem and not something that's been going on since the beginning of formalized group education.

[-] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 weeks ago

It's the Apple way.

[-] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 7 points 2 weeks ago

At my school back when I was still in education it was all adidas :3

[-] DancingBear@midwest.social 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Instead of getting him 300$ shoes give him the choice of the cool shoes or the latest coolest video game or the shoes, or whatever hobby he enjoys…

Kids tease other kids because they themselves feel insecure.. that’s literally all it is… if you need Nike shoes to feel secure you’re probably not a cool person anyways

[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

$300 shoes? I think the most expensive shoes I've ever bought were $70. I'm sure a lot of the issue with him getting picked on isn't so much brand name but him feeling like he has no say in what he wears and feeling like he is dressed by his parents in styles he has no say in. Its been 25 years since I entered middle school like this kid, but back then I would have felt the same way if my parents were forcing me to wear something I didn't like/want. It wasn't about price either. Often times the shoes my parents wanted me to wear were the same or higher in price, but styles change over time and vary by region/groups. People have their own personalities and prefer to fit in if they can. If the kid doesn't want to feel like a toddler and have more freedom in what they wear it isn't a bad thing.

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[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago

I got teased for my shoes. I got better shoes, I got teased for my jacket, I got a better jacket. So then they just made shit up to tease me about.

I saw the fucker that bullied me relentlessly for all three years in middle school about 10 years later. He was pounding stakes in the ground setting up for a carnival. He stopped me in apologized which was kind of surprising. I gave him an absolutely hollow but convincing thanks and what about my day.

I did a little light internet stalking, turns out he's vocal that can't keep a job, construction companies fire him for "no reason" and he's now down to whatever local company will hire him for physical labor. The only truly sad part is he has multiple children with multiple women and will not own up to any of them.

Though, I really suppose I owe a lot of who I am to the hell he put me through. Insults mean fuck all to me and I can ignore stress in a bad situation and make solid decisions.

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[-] pleaaaaaze@lemmings.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Buy him a crowbar.

Ultimate tool against bullying

[-] piyuv@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

I’ll tease my kids if they don’t wear Asics

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[-] Truffle@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago

Good for you. Whenever I get this kind of situation with ny kid I think "Will this matter in five years? Will this purchase break the bank?" If not, I buy/allow/rent whatever and move on. It usually does the trick and I don't mind if in my mind it sounds ridiculous or exaggerated, It is not about me but whatever they are going through and as long as they get the tools they need, so be it. Kid is very down to earth and doesn't usually overconsume. The only place where we overspend is the bookstore.

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[-] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

At all the schools my kids went to.... Nobody cares. The kids really don't give a shit what other kids are wearing. In some ways it's bizarre given that wasn't the case when I was a kid. But in many ways it's great. I rarely ever hear of bullying, kids just are themselves.

Of course thats woke, because they actually speak to the kids and tell them to consider others and will not tolerate intolerance. So I expect schools like these are few and far between.

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[-] pleaaaaaze@lemmings.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

The solution to bullying is to do as the bully says /s

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[-] GoddessGundy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Man sketchers are awesome. I have a pair that I've re-bought consistently for years because they were the perfect fit, comfy, and were nondescript. Now they've discontinued them so I have to see if I can order them online.

I remember when I was kid though. We always had hands-down, goodwill, and k-mart clothes. But one of my Pop's jobs was a janitor at the "rich" school district and he'd watch the lost and found box and wait for the shit he brought in to expire.

Once it was in the bin for more than a month it got "donated". Half of that stuff went to the kids of the people that worked there. My brothers and I being some of them. So Pops scored me a pair of Air Nike when Jordan was at the height of his career.

Wouldn't you know it? One dude on the play ground had to ask why I was wearing a Walmart T-shirt while wearing Nike shoes. Seriously, kids are fucking brutal.

I learned long before that that I was "poor" so I learned how to play it off and flipped the script. "Are you that superficial that you give a shit? It never even occurred to me to look at what you're wearing but now that I am, all you are is a wigger" (slur for a wannabe in my era/location). He left me alone the rest of our school career.

I'm in my forties now but somewhere in my thirties he hit me up on Facebook and apologized for being a little shit. Turns out he had a bit of a crush on me and that's how he showed it amongst other reasons. He was newly divorced when he reconnected with me so I had to turn him down (that the only reason you're apologizing, dude?) but he was much nicer about everything this time.

Kids can be nasty but many of them grow up. Anytime you can stand up to adults in front of your kids it's teaching them how to stand up to their own peers. Show them every example you can of how to handle what they're dealing with. How you stand up to your family, friends, and peers, is how your kids learn how to do the same thing.

You can't buy yourself out of bullying. Even rich kids get bullied. Confidence in yourself and empathy for others are a far better lesson to teach the next generation.

[-] Auth@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

My school everyone wore the same uniform. The only choice we could make was shoes or sandals 99.9% chose shoes. Sandal wearers got so much shit for it. It was a death sentence.

[-] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Kids find a way

[-] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Man I went to a very affluent school and no one gave a shit about what sneakers we had. Unless you had Heeley's of course. ZOOM!

[-] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

Probably because it was an affluent school. In a school with more poor kids, stuff like this is their little chance at feeling higher status than their peers even though it's all imaginary based on marketing.

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[-] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Kids are very materialistic.

When I was in middle school, I was probably the worst for me with the bullying. I came from a family that didn't have a whole lot of money. Like even the cheap stuff we had to cut corners with. And well I was fully aware, that there was no real difference between what I had and what they had, it didn't stop the consistent bullying. And the teachers never cared. The other students didn't care in fact some of them would chime in too. And when that's your life for several hours a day 5 days a week... You eventually just get to a breaking point.

I'll never forget the day I basically had a complete emotional breakdown because we were doing back to school shopping at Target, and I saw one of those trapper keepers. With a weird designs on the outside. They were all the rage. And it was like eight bucks I think. My mom did end up buying it for me, but only because her soon-to-be 5th grader, collapsed in the isle crying. I don't remember what I told her, but all I could think about was having that was going to make life just a little bit easier for me.

Kids can be real assholes to other kids.

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