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There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update is here.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago

In Denmark the conservative party has made a formal inquiry to the succdem minister of justice asking whether an existing ban on public approval of terrorism can be used to punish those who has expressed support for Hamas and the Al-Aqsa Flood.

A ghoul from the party says that "We don't think it should be without consequences in a democratic society to praise the killing of civilians and the kidnapping of civilians."

It is unlikely that they expect the ban to extend to those voicing support for zionist terror against Palestine.

A few weeks ago the very same conservative party was pissing and moaning and whining about freeze peach regarding a proposed ban on racist book burnings.

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[-] TheGamingLuddite@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago

From John Wayne Westerns to horror movies about ancient Indian burial grounds, Orwell's leering 1984 bureaucrats with irish surnames, red Dawn and the turner diaries. Westerners are constantly anticipating the terror our society is built on being revisited on us.

A lie about Israeli babies being beheaded will always resonate with the average political subject in the west than the truth of thousands of Palestinian children murdered or starved.

Nonetheless, even with all their secular resistance slaughtered, all possibilities of diplomacy exhausted, their water and electricity cut off, Palestine and Hamas are still the moral betters of their oppressors.

[-] Hohsia@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

If these past few days have taught me anything, it’s that the US populace will always side with the powerful over the powerless.

My folks used to tell me to never believe I read online but never applied that same logic to the TV, which was always the beacon of truth.

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[-] Cummunism@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

marxists: we should take out the people in power

Israel fans: KILL THE POOR

fucking christ people are really showing their asses. i found out i know maybe 6 comrades out of hundreds of people i have some form of contact with.

[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

From the mod that I suspect banned me from r/geopolitics today, where I had been active for like 4 years lol:

Insinuation that Israel has always wanted to take over Gaza, or any other fully Arab areas, and wants to now. The demographics would never work for the State of Israel, so annexing Gaza is a no-go. The presumption that the Israeli government would consider other options, such as mass deportation (or worse) to get rid of the Palestinians shows of the commenter that their comprehension of geopolitical affairs is quite crude. Further, the commenter's gross negligence of the history of the region and the context through which Israeli happened to acquire the occupied territories, demonstrates either a lack of knowledge of the situation or the intent to push an agenda (particularly evidenced by the multiple references to Netanyahu as if he were the only decision maker in the Israel).

https://reddit.com/r/geopolitics/s/13jnOb9Ye4

Started looking through the mod list to find a potential comrade who might unban me, and realizing it's all neoliberal/worldnews/warthunder freaks.

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

Israeli forces distribute 1,000 M16 rifles to settlers in West Bank | Al Bawaba

I never heard of the site I'm linking to. I wanted to link to a news site I know but the western media seems to have entirely ignored this.

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[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

I used to think it was hard to argue with liberals when I was a baby leftist and I think it's because a part of me still agreed with liberals enough to be swayed by what they were arguing. Now I just roll my eyes when they say the same things I've been hearing for decades but packaged in flowery language to sound more sophisticated.

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[-] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

I fuckin screamed holy shit they fuckin did it

they launched a full counteroffensive on Israel

From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be free!

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[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

Those are rookie numbers, gotta pump those numbers up

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[-] Cigarette_comedian@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

On the Ukrainian front, nothing new.

On the Palestinian front however, there is nothing but news.

[-] gregheffley@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

White supremacists/Zionists think the IDF are walking into a leisurely genocide I personally think they’re walking into a Grozny

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israel-planning-to-send-10000-troops-to-capture-gaza-city-kill-sinwar-officials/

Israel planning to send 10,000 troops to capture Gaza City, kill Sinwar — officials

Bro, that's not going to be enough.

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[-] glingorfel@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

how many comments would there be if nobody commented about the number of comments

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[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

CNN pushing the story hard that Hamas beheaded babies and toddlers. Someone is lying here and this whole thing feels so surreal, just like the babies in incubators story.

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[-] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

Anyone flying an Israel flag outside of occupied Palestine is scum. Like being a nationalist for your genocidal country is evil, but I can follow the thought process of why someone would do that. Being a nationalist for a separate genocidal country is both evil and weird.

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[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago
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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

Israel is doing mao's struggle sessions, a doxxing truck drove around Harvard University campus with digital billboards displaying the names and photos of students who allegedly signed an open letter blaming Israel for Hamas' attack.

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[-] Huldra@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

Swedish Left Party is preparing to expel a member in a local council position for "disrespecting the partys democratic processes and decisions" after he publicly criticised the party leader for only condemning hamas, as well as him separately stating that Israel must be abolished.

Democratic centralism but only when it comes to supporting genocide.

[-] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"damn ukraine war and the Palestinian Great Patriotic War? Nothing could get crazier than this!"

KKE: coups greece

Mexico: declares war on the cartels

China: sends an even angrier letter

US: invades venezuela

IRA: Makes a comeback and bombs the royal family

kim-

w- wait WAIT JUST LET ME ON THE LATHE A LITTLE LONGER PLEASE I HAVE SO MUCH MORE LET ME COOK LET ME COO- stalin-gun-1

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[-] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

Holy shit, people are actually convinced there is going to be a terrorist attack tomorrow.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The images and video coming out of Gaza are fucking awful. In just 72 hours it looks like how Syria looked after months.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

Hamas released a video showing how they actually treated babies during their invasion

https://streamable.com/uwk4wz

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://streamable.com/ticd06

Max Blumenthal was allowed into one of the press rooms, leading to this banger interaction.

He's a prick but this is good.

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[-] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

I know it seems like Ukraine is that toy story meme but don't you love being right about stuff?

AFP interviews Ukrainian soldiers, confirms Russian narratives

The recapture of the small village in the Zaporizhzhia region was announced in August as a strategic victory in the counteroffensive. Yet eight Ukrainian soldiers involved in the fighting told AFP their forces were only inching forward with heavy losses against a Russian army entrenched behind heavily fortified positions.

Igor Korol, the heavily tattooed(PS: I'd love to see those tattoos BTW, nothing but completely normal "viking runes" surely) commander of the brigade's first battalion, spoke calmly but did not mince his words. For him, the announcement of the capture of Robotyne on August 28 was primarily a PR move, since the village, occupied since early in the war, has no strategic value.

"We could have gone around it," he said, speaking to AFP in an area near the front line. "We love big announcements, quick victories. The reality is different," said the commander who uses the call sign "Morpekh" (Marine).

Korol said his men are still not able to move freely around the area because of Russian fire, even though they hold the territory, calling it a "gray zone".

Soldiers from the 65th brigade said Russia fires 10 shells for every "one or two" from their side. The same goes for drones.

"We are fighting against... a massive country. They have more men, more equipment," said Oleksandr, a 27-year-old soldier with the call sign "Storm".

This is constantly repeated by the armchair YT pro-Russian "analysts" whatever you call them, for months now. Also casualy admitting huge losses:

Without air cover, Ukraine's military can only move very slowly.

"The price is the life of our men... and we have very few (reserves) of men," Korol said.

Mykola or "Doc", a combat paramedic, acknowledged "the cost is very high", describing evacuations of wounded men under fire.

TL;DR Ukrainian commander among other soldiers admits Rabotyne was in fact nothing but a PR move, the Russian side is once again vindicated as providing reasonably accurate reporting on the desperate inferiority of the Ukrainian side, they lack firepower and continue to suffer huge casulaties. The village itself was in fact not strategically significant and even 2 months after "capturing it" Ukrainian army can't even move around it.

Too bad only nerds on the internet will read this shit.

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[-] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago
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[-] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

I want to throw up

[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

J Sakai I'm sorry, you were right!

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

Guy who thinks the IDF is going to lose in Gaza because they're vegan and lack testosterone from meat.

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[-] Antiwork@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

So the Freedom Socialist Party had said nothing about the ongoing genocide, but was so quick to support Ukraine. So that means I’m allowed unlimited sectarianism on trots right?

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I wondered if Snopes had anything to say about Hamas's "Top Secret" map. I couldn't find anything. But when I was looking around I found this ~2,000 word white phosphorus article...

Do Photos and Video Confirm Israel Used White Phosphorus Munitions Over Gaza Seaport?

A hint about Snopes - you need to scroll all the way to the bottom because the site does SEO manipulation and makes pages needlessly enormous. In the very last sentence they finally get to what should be the very first sentence.

Though these videos and photos may not be confirmation of the use of white phosphorus munitions over populated areas by Israel, they are strong evidence in support of that conclusion.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

Iran: Heavy losses will befall America and Israel because of the attack on Gaza.

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