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[-] PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

I have attended protests and will do so again, but I have no illusions that the fascists will simply ignore them. This may build up more frustration from people, but the sooner we can plan a general strike the better. The nazi ticks are just burrowing deeper.

[-] HalifaxJones@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

What we need is for someone to openly share addresses of the billionaires homes and start protesting there. That’s the only way we can negatively effect them. Make them scared to be comfortable in their own homes.

[-] womjunru@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 week ago

It’s an hour long protest. What does anyone think that will accomplish. The “tree huggers” chain themselves to things ffs.

[-] TacoSocks@infosec.pub 3 points 1 week ago

If you complain something won't do anything, then you must propose a better thing or the only thing you want is apathy.

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Was "chaining themselves to trees" not clear?

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[-] NikolaTeslasPigeon@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Nothing will change until Americans are willing to disrupt. General Strikes are effective. Shut it all down and see how quickly things change. It's not easy but until you get the appetite for it, nothing will change.

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[-] justineie_bobeanie@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

June "No Kings" saw the largest single day protests in US history. This is a healthy response by the population. We do absolutely need to move beyond the limits of street protests, and onto the development of a mass strike movement; however, the fact that masses of people are willing to go out and protest on a largely spontaneous basis is significant. What is needed is clear revolutionary political perspective. When this understanding grips the masses, particularly the working class, the movement will take on an explosivly historic significance.

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[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 8 points 1 week ago

Epstein should be the theme. It even has traction with his own side. Empty G and I are on the same side, for the first, and very probably only, time.

Even with this theme, Epstein should feature prominently. This is the first time that an issue has resonated so strongly with his own following. The entire Q Anon thing started over conspiracy theories about Democratic Child Sex Trafficking, HitlerPig amplified it, and rode it to power.

And now we've come to the really deliciously ironic part. MAGAs treated this issue like the only people who could possibly be in the files are Democrats like the Clintons, but they're finding out that even if that's so, Dems don't care. We're all sick of the spineless establishment Dems anyway, go ahead and toss them in jail. Now we have finally reached that moment we have been careening towards for years, and their bluff is literally being called, but instead of showing their cards, they have to show the files, and they don't want to do that because there are a LOT more MAGAs than Dems. Even more ironic, usually they aren't holding anything when they bluff, but in this case, we know they are holding a Red Royal Flush.

If it turns out that the Epstein Files were full of MAGAs who could have been destroyed, but the Biden administration chose to give them a break in order to protect the Clinton's, or some other Democratic perv, then that's a secondary scandal.

Keep up the pressure, increase it steadily, and this could be the thing that brings him down.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

The files were sealed under court order until January. Biden didn't have the opportunity to release the files.

[-] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

We need to do a peaceful protest every month till this administration and their dear leader are gone.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Peaceful protests won't get rid of the regime. What they're good for is connecting, organizing, demonstrating opposition is a viable size to uncertain bystanders who fear being part of a tiny minority and getting crushed, and generating enthusiasm for further, more 'strategic' work.

[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

He just can't say the quiet part out-loud.

So he says "peacful protest".

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

Oh you sweet summer child.

[-] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

As much as I am supportive, it is only realistic to day that it has no impact whatsoever. Until it’s Game On like Donkey Kong, we are just making ourselves feel better. I know, peacefully is how we do it. God be with ya’ll. Just remember this. The oppressors feel that god is on their side when they be getting the 30 Grand bonus for bagging folks. I’d be happy when a peaceful protest followed some ice simpletons home. I’d be interested in that.

[-] Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

F*** them up boo, let s**t hit the fan. We need a breaking point, the whole world is DONE with america, or go strike nationally. Paralyze the entire country

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[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Try every day

You seriously think trump will even remotely care about monthly protests? That is chuckle worthy for him at this moment.

He won't change until he starts to feel it

[-] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

He won't care about daily peaceful protests either. When we break down the adjectives "Daily" and "Peaceful", change the frequency of the former won't matter.

[-] Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Besides all the other anti equal rights, anti justice, anti democratic, fascist bullshit trump likes, this is also acceptable to him and netanyahu:


More images from Anadolu @ Getty Images

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

This is acceptable to Israel. People in the west watching BBC or CNN seeing images like this is not though. It's why they are now repeating the cycle of "letting in aid" that we are seeing now.

Any seemingly "moral" action that Israel takes is literally to ensure they can continue doing their genocide. Giving the west just enough coverage of aid trucks so their media can pretend that it's no longer happening.

I am ashamed to live in this time of human history that we allow the people causing these images to remain in power and not have their heads placed on a spike (metaphorically of course).

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[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago

Its sorta sad I never see something like this on the 50501 communities. I feel someone made them with the intention that someone else would do it. Anyway https://www.rageagainsttheregime.org/

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 week ago

Not sure where the details are. I hit find an action and it took me to a page that says 0 events in New York :|

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago

yeah same with my city. there is no way these will not be locations so im guessing they still have org to do at local levels.

[-] Knightfox@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

As an American (I know some people will scoff at that statement but that's what we would genuinely say), but I feel like protests are effectively pointless in the modern day. The people in power don't care and even Amy Coney Barrett has said how she has people around her house day and night and that they are wasting their time. Protests are great for the morale of the protestors, but they effectively don't have any impact on people in office. I like the idea of protests, I support what most protestors are doing, but I don't feel like they are making any real difference to the political stance of those they are protesting.

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Agreed. Protests that don't disrupt anything are about as effective as online petitions.

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[-] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

Thats a generalisation.

It depends what the objective of your protest is.

Obviously people standing outside a politicians house with a sign are ineffective, thats just not how politics works.

Obviously large scale protests aren't going to make Trump change his ways or resign.

However, I think large scale protests might activate a lot of apathetic people, and get them connected.

America doesn't need Trump to resign and Vance to take over. You need societal change. You need your population to realise that your trajectory is pretty awful and that it doesn't have to be.

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

statement but that's what we would genuinely say)

I think part of the issue here is not following through with that energy into elections to get progressive platforms in office.

[-] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

If these happen in Democrat-run cities, what is the over/under that Trump sends in the National Guard?

Democratic governors need to be attempting to take control of their national guards

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

NY's governor is a straight up trumper and former cop so the odds are 100

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

These types of protest. While large and making national news are very unlikely to have that type of response.

These protest are liberals going out and feeling like they did something. Which is obviously better than liberals not going out at all.

The protests that get physical response are the ones that have the potential to build into larger and more active movements. Protest with simple goals like "prevent vehicles from leaving the ICE facility". As someone that's been to protest with that goal. 100-200 people with a real material goal are much more likely to have police response than a planned parade.

These "no kings" style protest are essentially just that: planned parades. And are directed through the city in very much the same way. Again, I am not against them. But they are not serving the same purpose.

The military is NOT being used because the size of protest are large. The military is being used as a political tool to form a narrative that justifies more use of violence against civilians.

They wont attack these "protest parades" filled with large amounts of people that are not directly effected by negative effects of their fascist policies. It is much better to keep them as once a month parade members than to risk radicalizing large amounts of them into full time activists if they ever felt the sting of tear gas.

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[-] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

To those being diswayed by comments stating that peaceful protests are useless and don't do anything, keep in mind that these comments are from people who are probably doing nothing but commenting on the internet and are useless themselves.

"Nonviolent protests are twice as likely to succeed as armed conflicts – and those engaging a threshold of 3.5% of the population have never failed to bring about change."

Source

inb4 "Oh YeAh WeLl I DiD sUcH aNd sUcH"

[-] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

If they’re not showing up armed they’re doing fuck all.

[-] womjunru@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 week ago

More like Gently express disappointment against the regime.

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

My parents generation got the Black Panthers. My generation gets "I'd be at brunch right now if you just voted for Harris" signs in our protest.

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[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I'm sure that walking or standing around holding signs with passive aggressive messages on them will convince the regime to pack up and leave. That's how the Nazis were beat the first time around, right?

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[-] axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

One person with a pistol just shook the ruling class more than decades of peaceful organizing. Photo taken inside a rusty wall in the subway

This protest ain't doing shit.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

The last protest didn't change anything but surely this one that trump will be prepared for will.

Arm yourselfs, peaceful protest assumes trump has a conscience and morals that he will listen to when filled with guilt.

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