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They're starting the camps as rebuilding the asylums. Pretty nakedly going to keep redefining what will get you involuntarily committed by using vague language that doesn't reference actual standards of mental health or ethics of treatment.

Make no mistake, the "incompetence" that we constantly see from these goddamn Nazis is intentional. It's meant to be a malleable definition so they can pivot to whomever is convenient to target whenever they need to.

Arm yourselves, arm your friends, arm the homeless.

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[-] Llituro@hexbear.net 99 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

as it has been noted elsewhere, this is almost identical to the policies being pioneered in california under gavin newsome and los angeles under karen bass. they're using similar justifications to undergird a similarly violent escalation against unhoused people with nowhere else to go. it's becoming plainer and plainer daily that newscum is trying to position himself as the liberal Hitler alternative and the trump people are cribbing his notes accordingly.

[-] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 5 days ago

Dems and GOP work in tandem. Just as Biden continued Trump I, so will newsome contiune trump II, yet his "saviour of democracy" shtick will just lower societal antagonism for a while, before the next phase of fascism sweeps in after.

[-] prole@hexbear.net 79 points 5 days ago

It's okay, when we elect another Dem prez they're gonna get rid of this. Right? Surely they won't quietly expand staff, increase the budget, and hand off a well-oiled fascism machine to the next GOP prez like they did with ICE.

[-] godlessworm@hexbear.net 60 points 5 days ago

ugh dont you know anything about civics and political strategizing?!? president AOC only agreed to further fund the secret police because funding for LGBTQ coal miners was also attached to the bill! so what you hate gay people then?!?

[-] mrfugu@hexbear.net 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

reading this was like an aneurysm premonition

[-] fox@hexbear.net 23 points 5 days ago

The obsession with fucking coal miners too. Yell louder about commitment to obliterating land and poisoning the air in service of an industry that employes fewer people than Arby's.

[-] FedPosterman5000@hexbear.net 4 points 5 days ago

My family used to be coal miners - and ya know what they were pretty overjoyed they were able to stop doing? Anyone who stans mining should be forced to go do it- then the rest of the poor fuckers can quit

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 4 points 5 days ago

But white men will whine if we take a job that .0001% of them do.

Because we took away one of the jobs that isn't gay.

You don't understand. Without the straightifying effect of coal mining those .0001% of white men will be directly exposed to levels of woke their bodies can't tolerate - they have no natural immunity. The coal is their sole prophylactic.

[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 44 points 5 days ago

Obama quietly made the Bush tax cuts permanent.

Biden quietly made the Trump tax cuts permanent.

[-] palacedoctor@hexbear.net 18 points 5 days ago

Obama also gave the current border czar the "presidential rank award for distinguished service" back in 2015

[-] LangleyDominos@hexbear.net 76 points 5 days ago

The plan for the 21st century is just to return to the late 1800s. That period in the US is one of the inspiration for Nazis. These dudes aren't fantasizing about being Hitler, they seem themselves as Rockefeller.

[-] revolut1917@hexbear.net 46 points 5 days ago

as always, the answer is somewhere in the middle. some of them fantasize about being Rockefeller, and others fantasize about being Hitler, and some fantasize about both!

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 21 points 5 days ago

That’s what I’ve been saying. Still waiting for something resembling the Comstock laws to make a comeback with modern updates targeting trans issues.

[-] tocopherol@hexbear.net 70 points 5 days ago

I did a short analysis of this order in the news mega here, my take on it was essentially what you summarized. The language leaves open the ability to detain any unhoused person in any facility the state has available for any reason they deem necessary, they already could black bag whoever for "national security", now they can based on mental health criteria that the fascist-aligned Department of Health can make up as they see fit. So while it is aimed at homeless individuals and encampments, it sounds like the order could be used for basically anyone.

[-] godlessworm@hexbear.net 1 points 5 days ago

maybe its time some of us become cops and start arresting some mentally ill people starting with the kid fucker that has brainworms

[-] semioticbreakdown@hexbear.net 65 points 5 days ago

Speak of compassion in the system of death. Humane becomes a word not of real humanity to a real person, but only the tone one takes when speaking of animals. When they make the kill chambers, they will speak of them kindly.

[-] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 29 points 5 days ago

Is that from a historical speech?

[-] semioticbreakdown@hexbear.net 49 points 5 days ago

No. I'm just very distraught between this and that video of the GHF lady. How can they smile like that, knowing what they're doing? It makes me very apocalyptic, but I don't have any kind of sandwichboard sign to wear. And so many people want this - I saw posters on reddit-logo calling for this exact thing, every unhoused mentally ill person and drug users locked away in a padded cell. Their abject suffering is just an inconvenience, a random NPC encounter with no more reality than a character in an MMO. They don't get to be people. And the ones who made the policies that put them there will lock them away, smiling. Abstracted bodies to be stepped over and statistics to be held up as wins. I can't stand it. I feel sick. Every time I look away I feel sick.

[-] revolut1917@hexbear.net 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

i feel that and i don't know how to stop the feeling of sickness long enough to do anything other than loathe my fellow human being for what they allow to happen, what they tacitly or openly support. most people (at least modern people, the subjects of the neoliberal order) are useless, lazy pigs, and if they even feel any kind of negative emotion about this, the most they'll likely do is post about it. a small minority of heroes will throw their bodies into the cogs and get chewed up. it is just disgusting. it is sickening. the only innocent people are the ones sent to the camps.

[-] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 5 days ago

Most will follow whatever the hegemonic culture is. A hegemony of working class and intrinsic compassion with people that may not have it so easy, will make most people act accordingly. The world belongs to us, we just need to take it.

[-] revolut1917@hexbear.net 9 points 5 days ago

hope so. seems like many people only get crueller despite objective advances for socialist organisation in recent years.

[-] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 5 days ago

Well thats just because liberalism is shedding its skin and going into fascism. The declining material conditions allow for the advancement of leftist thought, but the same conditions do give rise to fascism, also.

[-] miz@hexbear.net 17 points 5 days ago

I will regret asking this but what video of the GHF lady

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 61 points 5 days ago
[-] PKMKII@hexbear.net 33 points 5 days ago

rovide assistance to State and local governments, through technical guidance, grants, or other legally available means, for the identification, adoption, and implementation of maximally flexible civil commitment, institutional treatment, and “step-down” treatment standards that allow for the appropriate commitment and treatment of individuals with mental illness who pose a danger to others or are living on the streets and cannot care for themselves.

I used to work in supportive housing for formerly homeless individuals with mental illnesses and/or substance abuse issues. The vast, vast majority of them just need a car worker to keep them on track of things. “Mental Illness” doesn’t exclusively mean “violently deranged,” it means things like PTSD, bipolar, depression. Put those people into a sanitarium will just make things worse for them.

ensure that discretionary grants issued by the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration for substance use disorder prevention, treatment, and recovery fund evidence-based programs and do not fund programs that fail to achieve adequate outcomes, including so-called “harm reduction” or “safe consumption” efforts that only facilitate illegal drug use and its attendant harm;

Every public health expert agrees harm reduction has the best outcomes.

These actions shall include, to the extent permitted by law, ending support for “housing first” policies that deprioritize accountability and fail to promote treatment, recovery, and self-sufficiency; increasing competition among grantees through broadening the applicant pool; and holding grantees to higher standards of effectiveness in reducing homelessness and increasing public safety.

So fix homelessness, but don’t support housing people, but also increasing the number of applicants for the thing we’re not supporting via deregulation, but also increasing regulatory oversight on them. Very coherent.

[-] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 18 points 5 days ago

Housing first has also been at the forefront of VA care for homeless veterans, and it's been hugely successful.

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 32 points 5 days ago

I want homeless people to then take landowners down with them by calling them accomplices. After all, homeless people couldn’t have committed their “crime” if porky wasn’t such a gluttonous pig.

[-] godlessworm@hexbear.net 31 points 5 days ago

I want homeless people to then take landowners down

honestly coulda stopped typing there. same.

[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 32 points 5 days ago
[-] godlessworm@hexbear.net 19 points 5 days ago

ayy i made a sticker of this quote out of some shipping labels i took from work a few years back. bottom middle

[-] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 5 days ago

Many homeless people have internalized the "worthlessness" enforced by the capitalist elite onto them. The lumpen (or Sub-Proletariat if your are PC) are difficult to organize by socialists.

[-] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 31 points 5 days ago

so in reading this it comes off as the biden thing where he released everyone convicted of marijuana possession federally which was like zero people due to how that works. people get arrested for trafficking and shit like that.

in this case he is going to provide funding for all people who are homeless who are convicted of federal crimes regarding homelessness, which i would presume is exactly 0 people per year.

[-] revolut1917@hexbear.net 29 points 5 days ago

lmao alligator alcatraz amirite 🤣🤣 orange man golf !!!

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 23 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

If I read this policy and it was implemented by a socialist state, I would believe what it says and that the goal is to fix the lives of these people.

When I read this from a country currently kidnapping people off the streets for deportation or imprisonment in salvador? I get a terrible feeling in the pit of my stomach.

Arm all homeless.

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