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A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.

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[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago

It holds a level of cultural and economic dominance over much of the country to the point where it can often feel similar to how America does to Europeans.

They make our art, they grow our food, and they represent us on a cultural stage to the world. And for a lot of middle America you will never be able to afford to move there, but some of your neighbors and friends will, and they'll love it.

There's a lot of sour grapes in California hate, because Iowa, Missouri, ohio, etc know they're flyover states, they know they're never going to be the powerhouses that California is. So you watch your Los Angeles media on a Silicon Valley device eating your San Joaquin vegetables thinking about your childhood friend who couldn't take it here and got into a UC and never moved back. There's some bitterness if you left your small town, but if you didn't even manage that…

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 8 points 9 months ago

I think you hit the nail perfectly on the head

i say living on the west coast after I escaped the drudgery that is the Midwest

[-] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

You're thinking of educated people, the people who hate California could never think things that far through. They are the uneducated masses who eat up what fox news sells them, and then regurgitate it. They've never talked to a minority or someone outside their economic class. They know their small reality, and can't conceptualize a society bigger or more complex than that.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago

It's the fifth largest global economy...

It's hard proof that most of their policy is complete bullshit, because if they were right, liberal social policy and taxes would have chased all the wealthy away.

But it doesn't, because people want to live in places with that kind of policy

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

California is a monument to the total debunking of right wing social ideology

It plus New York fund the existence of the red states

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 9 months ago

Oh dear, I have to post it again:

Fuck the south

Look at the economies of southern red states. They're fucking garbage and they turn out some of the most reprehensible personalities in our country. Pathetic.

[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

That needs to stop

[-] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 1 points 9 months ago

It ain't perfect (cost of living has always been relatively high, even for states with comparable cities), but it's far and away better than any red state to my knowledge.

[-] Hello_there@fedia.io 15 points 9 months ago

They jelly of that economy

[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

"B-but everyone is leaving California!!1!"

To the people saying this: yeah, dream on. Step away from the hard right-wing media and look around. It's a myth.

Yes there are some people leaving the state for places like Texas and Florida (sorry, but fuck knows why!). But there are still a ton of people here in CA, there are still people moving here, and there are still kids being born here. We are a loooong easy from a mass exodus of economy crippling proportions.

[-] Feyd@programming.dev 13 points 9 months ago

The entire answer is "propaganda"

[-] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

In integral part of conservative ideology is hatred and California's been a target for decades. When the acceptance of gays became too widespread they switched to hatred and vilification of transgender Americans. When the general population gets tired of listening to them screech about that they'll find someone/something else. For some reason they don't get tired of whining about CA.

[-] LuxSpark@lemmy.cafe 8 points 9 months ago

The people who tell conservatives what to think have indicated that California is bad. Why is it bad? They made some progress on a few things, and we can’t have that. It’s why we can’t have nice things like affordable healthcare and breathable air.

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Breathable air? That's just another commodity to sell to the masses. Like shelter. And water. And food.

If they could sell us sunlight, they would do it without a second thought.

[-] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 7 points 9 months ago

Because caring for the environment and creating social programs is scary to them.

[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

They hate us because they ain't us.

[-] mesamunefire@piefed.social 2 points 9 months ago

Lol we fund them.

[-] cymbal_king@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago
[-] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

"They hate us 'cause they anus."

[-] Mac@mander.xyz 1 points 9 months ago
[-] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Because Fox News tells them too

[-] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 months ago

I've never been to Alabama but I'll still shit on it because I've seen statistics and stories about how bad it is there. Same with Republicans. California is definitely one of the better states to live in by most metrics but it does have huge wealth inequality combined with its large population means there's no shortage of people in poverty and statistics and stories from that group that fox News can shove in the face of there audience and pretend that's how everyone in California is living.

[-] Hubbubbub@fedia.io 5 points 9 months ago

I've been to Alabama. I have family in Alabama. I will say it's probably worse than you think in many ways.

[-] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 4 points 9 months ago

Lookng at Cali might give them cognitive dissonance so they get upset like the mean dumb goblins they are.

[-] pepperprepper@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

I would guess most midwesterners have not been, so they dont know the reality of the place. So anyone can say it's full of bad people and they won't bat an eye.

[-] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 0 points 9 months ago

It’s easy to hate and fear the “other” - not just a conservative thing, though I do think they’re a bit more vitriolic about it.

[-] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 2 points 9 months ago

I do think they’re a bit more vitriolic about it

Looks at responses in this topic

Are you sure about that? People who are in deep on both sides of the political spectrum behave exactly the same way in regards to things like this. This is just a thread of bash the “red states” because they……bash the “blue states” lol.

[-] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

Because California stands for many, many, many, many of the things they oppose without evidence to back up their claims: Supporting LGBTQ+, better Social programs, limited religious freedoms, run by a bunch of "liberals", etc. etc.

And yet, it's the 5th largest economy in the world, and the vast, overwhelming, majority of funds for the USA.

They hate that California works, because it disproves pretty much all of their talking points.

[-] half_fiction@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 months ago

4th largest*

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

They hate the proof that their ideas suck and the ones they fight work, even when you fuck it up kinda badly.

[-] switcheroo@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

It represents everything they hate. CA ain't perfect, but it's got a lot of good stuff going for it. Especially that monster economy.

I like to rag on our state to the south friend-o, but it's outta love for the pnw. You keep doing you because it fucking pisses off the Pedo Party and that's awesome.

[-] Darrell_Winfield@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Since nobody here is giving any actual reasons and just putting up straw men, let me give you the real reasons.

Crowded and high cost of living.

And because politics, those two points extend into lots of homeless (crowded) and "liberal initiatives" (cost of living). But it's always rooted into crowded and high cost of living.

But what about large cities in the red states? Yes, the same is said of those. Crowded and high cost of living.

[-] roofuskit@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Why is it crowded there? It's expensive because it's crowded, so why is it so crowded? Do people actually want to live there or something?

[-] RabbitMix@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 9 months ago

As my dad said after moving to San Francisco "It's expensive here because it's worth it"

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

What conservatives alsp forget is their own system of capitalism they worship is what drives its high cost of living. People want to live there. If there wasn't a demand to live there, cost of living would lower.

More homeless are seen in the west coast states also because the climate is more hospitable, and the governments and people a little more so, too. Also because right-wing media magnify the problem.

[-] andyburke@fedia.io 2 points 9 months ago

The OP asked about the state, not cities. There is a ton of cheap land here. There are also tons of different sized cities with different housing costs.

You said others were offering straw men? What is this?

[-] Zexks@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

So. Propoganda.

[-] mienshao@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

What’s crazy is that, by pure numbers, CA is basically tied with FL as having the second most republicans in the country—at around 6 million.* Only TX has them both beat. Conservatives really do shit on the 2nd/3rd largest enclave of republicans in the country 🤣

*Based on the 2024 US election turnout—not registered republicans

[-] Theatomictruth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago

CA republicans hate California just as much

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Many of them briefly leave, hate it and then come back and continue to talk about how much they hate California. And to them I say: please leave, we have enough people as it is.

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Imagine what California could accomplish without having to fight the rural Republican anchor dragging shit down constantly due to their propaganda.

[-] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 3 points 9 months ago

Learn the phrase and see it everywhere: negative partisanship. XBOX vs PS vs Nintendo vs mobile, Mac vs MS vs Linux, Rep vs Dem, white vs black, old vs young, etc. etc. etc. Stupid people love signalling to their ingroup how loyal they are by attacking the outgroup.

[-] SoupBrick@pawb.social 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Everybody loves finding things in common with other people.

Since California is percieved by the right to be a "liberal stronghold", it is easy for them to bond over a shared hatred of it. Regardless of whether or not that hate is based in fact.

[-] magpie@mander.xyz 2 points 9 months ago

From what I can tell from up in Canada, it's a more 'liberal' leaning state according to their metric and they don't like that.

[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago
[-] Thistlewick@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 9 months ago

It’s a stereotype. Why do many people instantly think of Texas when talking about conservative states?

[-] roofuskit@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I think of a fertilizer factory built across the street from schools that blows up. Or people freezing to death when their power goes out. Or getting a bill for $5,000 because they didn't freeze to death.

[-] Auth@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I'm not conservative but the last time i was in LA precovid it was actually a really shit place. Streets were gross, homeless everywhere, insane wealth disparity and so much sprawl. Food was 11/10. The economy probably wouldnt be what it is without silicon valley.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's heavily featured in Fox and other conservative ~~propaganda~~ media. So is the pacific northwest... my god, my dad will not stop talking about the homeless hordes of seattle or whatever.

TBH Texas and Florda are portrayed similarly in many leftist tabloids. Speaking as someone who has recently leaved in both, yes, they are conservative dystopias, but not uniformly and not like news would lead you to believe.

There are just blowing up grains of truth.

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