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As previously promised, here is a quick recap for the DSA convention that just wrapped up. I could probably write something longer, but I'll stick to highlights because I am extremely tired.

~~Democrat Supporters of America~~ ~~Direct Sellers Association~~ ~~Dick Suckers Agency~~ Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) is the largest socialist org in the US with ~90,000 members. It is a mass party with ties to labor unions and a few electeds scattered around the US. Once every two years DSA holds a convention composed of delegates elected from each chapter based on membership size. This year the total delegate count was ~1,200, with the largest delegations being from NYC, LA, and DC.

The convention is the highest decision making body in the org and is tasked with voting on member-submitted resolutions and electing the org's two co-chairs and its increasingly large National Political Committee (NPC) which is the highest decision making body between conventions. I won't bore everyone with the individual votes, but I'll try to explain where the org is at.

DSA is a "big tent" org. This means factions of vastly different tendencies are allowed to operate openly and advocate for their own vision of the org. The ideological range here varies from radlibs who want the org to operate like an NGO, and revolutionary MLs who want to overthrow the government by force. You might predict this produces a contentious body, and it does, but the org has spent the last decade since its rebirth maturing. I've been told by long-timers that this was the most comradely convention since 2015.

From what my sleep-deprived brain can remember, here are the biggest decisions we made:

  • A large internal reform was passed by DSA's Democracy Commission based on an analysis of global parties similar to DSA. This included, as some folks have posted, a repeal of a ban on democratic centralism. To be pedantic, the bylaw in question banned any DSA member from being "under the control of a democratic centralist organization" (DSA allows dual-carding). This ban has never been enforced to my knowledge and was probably cooked up by Michael Herrington's insane brain out of a rabid hatred of communism.
  • Speaking of hating Herrington, the org passed its strongest national statements on Zionism, declaring direct support of Israel a red line for membership and electeds that can lead to expulsion. A similar resolution was debated during the 2023 convention and failed. Growth!
  • A couple of big electoral resolutions got passed. One says we need to run 10 socialist candidates on an independent ballot line in 2026 (I'm skeptical) and another says we should run a presidential candidate in 2028 (I'm very skeptical we can get a candidate who can win to run).
  • Convention voted for National to start up some kind of big Abolish Ice campaign in 2026.
  • I'm very proud of the convention for voting down an amendment to our wonderful International Committee's consensus resolution that would have imposed certain members' idea of "democracy" and "worker's rights" onto the considerations of what parties we can and cannot reach out to.
  • We voted to delete our Twitter account lmao

I'm sure there's more but I'm blanking. And I'm also mad we ran out of time to get to vote to censure AOC. Other highlights:

  • As you've maybe seen already, yes, someone did say that delegates not voting for a One Member, One Vote resolution were like John Adams, slavers, and Jim Crow. No, we did not stop making fun of them all weekend.
  • Multiple international guests honored us with their presence, including reps from PT in Brazil and Morena in Mexico, both of whom I was privileged enough to hear speak their message of solidarity to DSA.
  • DSA has an excellent relationship with the PCC in Cuba, and had planned to have a delegation from Cuba return this year. Unfortunately (per a rumor I heard), there were concerns about traveling to America (fair), so Carlos Fernández de Cossío, Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs, sent in a video, which was played before the convention body, expressing the plight of the Cuba people and the necessity of international solidarity.
  • In a much more unexpected appearance, Jeremy Corbyn also sent a video wishing well to DSA, including a call for something like "A new Atlantic alliance, this time based on peace, cooperation, and socialism."
  • Our keynote speak was Rashida Tlaib. The self-proclaimed "big sister" of DSA fired off some very obvious subliminals at AOC, and demanded more independence from the Dems, and for labor to fight for a free Palestine. She was undoubtedly the greatest speaker we had and it was very comforting to visibly see her bodyguards standing near her.

Most people I spoke to described the convention body as more "left" than ever on virtually every issue, which is visible somewhat in the results of the NPC election having more of a bent towards the left of the org than before. I think the 2027 convention, with a looming presidential race and the much talked about May Day 2028 strike, will have a lot more substantial to chew through.

I'd be happy to answer any questions anyone has. join dsa if ur not in an org k goodnight blob-sleep

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[-] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 31 points 3 days ago

I won't bore everyone with the individual votes

I want to be bored with the individual votes!

[-] heresiarch@hexbear.net 65 points 3 days ago

Oh, and I'd be remiss to not mention, for the benefit of my PSL comrades, that a couple of reps from PSL also spoke, talking about the importance of a strong labor movement and independence from the Dems.

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 42 points 3 days ago

Now that IS promising. There is a fairly good DSA chapter where I am, the ones that started the EWOC actually. They keep asking me to join. Maybe I should.

[-] CutieBootieTootie@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago

Oh that's awesome, which comrades were present? It's always nice seeing the national levels get along

[-] jack@hexbear.net 14 points 3 days ago
[-] heresiarch@hexbear.net 15 points 3 days ago

Dang y'all, I wish I had jotted down their names. I wanted to link up with them after the panel, but they had already split. I got the impression they might be local to Chicago where the convention was held.

[-] jack@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago

Is there anywhere to look to see?

[-] CutieBootieTootie@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

If it was Chicago then there's a nonzero chance it was Nino lmao

[-] jack@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago

lmao I didn't want to jump straight to it being Nino but yeah it's gotta be Nino

[-] RedSailsFan@hexbear.net 12 points 3 days ago

@heresiarch@hexbear.net i saw someone saying on twitter that there was a livestream on their website that you need membership in DSA to access i.e. like the internal forums, do you know if you could watch a playback of it in the same place?

[-] blunder@hexbear.net 25 points 3 days ago

Actual journalism? On my pig poop balls website? Well done comrade xi-clap

[-] homhom9000@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago

Keep side eyeing the dsa application lately. Then I remember what it was actually like being in it. Regardless, if any more friends ask me what is to be done I think the best start is getting involved with DSA

[-] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 12 points 3 days ago

DSA really is big tent. I'm in DSA.

[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 41 points 4 days ago
[-] axont@hexbear.net 40 points 3 days ago

It does sound like the DSA is getting its ducks in a row after a bunch of stumbles over the last 5 years. If the resolution about expelling Zionists can get enforced I think that'll be a really good line in the sand moment. I'm not sure where that would lead, if it would tear the org apart or not, but I think it's interesting to see and shows that people are starting to get a clearer vision of what needs to happen.

Thanks for the summary and here's to a future full of solidarity

I'm really excited about Cuba's PCC offering solidarity as well. They're a miracle of a party and know the game well. Anything they say or any advice they give should be met with full attention.

[-] heresiarch@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

If the resolution about expelling Zionists can get enforced I think that'll be a really good line in the sand moment.

The convention has definitely spoken, but the aftermath remains to be seen. DSA has kicked people out but I am not personally aware of any expulsion proceedings, which leads me to believe they are not common. However, I have been told that multiple local chapters have passed similar commitments in the past two years which have been used as cause for intervention on egregious behavior. For reference, here is the text from the reso (there is also a lot of good stuff in there committing us to further pro-Palestinian organizing work):

[-] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 14 points 3 days ago

My local DSA has sort of self selected into anti Zionism. The core is so vocally and vehemently anti zionist that anyone who is sympathetic to Israel leaves on their own lol

[-] Firefly7@hexbear.net 38 points 3 days ago

Thank you for the recap!!

On the topic of the 2028 presidential election, I agree that it would be very hard to win, but if PSL is anything to go off of then running a candidate is a great way to have people listen to your ideas when you go door-to-door, and to get your message out there.

[-] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 26 points 3 days ago

Sound like mostly good news! I'm happy. Hopefully the left can start getting it's shit together in the US away from the Democratic Party.

My question is what kind of things did Tlaib subliminally say about AOC?

[-] heresiarch@hexbear.net 17 points 3 days ago

My question is what kind of things did Tlaib subliminally say about AOC?

I was going to try and recap, but judge for yourself! The remarks in question start at 6:45.

[-] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago

Ooh that did seem pretty pointed lol

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[-] Dimmer06@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago

Are NPC election results in?

[-] blobjim@hexbear.net 27 points 3 days ago

We voted to delete our Twitter account lmao

Do they have a Mastodon account yet? It looks like some chapters have them but I don't see a national one. Looks like they have a Bluesky account but I think Mastodon is more "open" system.

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 30 points 3 days ago

Appreciate the summary from someone who was there.

[-] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 28 points 3 days ago

From what I understand, the left wing of the org swept NPC elections as well, is that true?

[-] heresiarch@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago

No one has a majority. You can break down the results in such a way that there is a slight "left" majority, but the left/right dichotomy in DSA factions is most useful as shorthand. The caucuses themselves have very mixed politics and none of them always get it right IMO. But the results are encouraging.

[-] ufcwthrowaway@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

If you count the trots, the left has a slight majority. If you dont count them (and you shouldn't) then the left has a plurality.

Bread and Roses (post trot labor-notes core) and Reform and Revolution (A split from Socialist Alternative) are now the king makers, so expect DSA's foreign policy to continue to be rough.

[-] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 24 points 3 days ago

post-trot

Good god that describes so much of DSA leadership.

[-] Dimmer06@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago

I mean DSA was founded by trots that hated the Soviet Union so much that they re-embraced liberal democracy so it's no surprise.

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[-] into_highest_invite@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 3 days ago

the org passed its strongest national statements on Zionism, declaring direct support of Israel a red line for membership and electeds that can lead to expulsion.

going forward, what's the vibes around aoc then? just in general, not necessarily directly related to the resolution

[-] heresiarch@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago

There was a resolution we did not have time for to censure AOC which I firmly believe would have passed at this convention. I'm happy we (mostly) spent our time on commitments to action and not statements, but I would have liked to see us crack the whip a little.

In general, especially with Zohran becoming a poster child for what actual DSA cadre running for office can look like, sentiment on AOC has soured significantly among all but the most rightist factions.

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[-] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago

She'll have to triangulate harder. If she could ditch DSA and become a DNC sweet heart she probably would. But the Dems have made it clear that's not an option though.

[-] FettermansFinalStroke@hexbear.net 13 points 3 days ago

Well apparently there was going to be a vote on censuring her but the convention ran out of time.

[-] starkillerfish@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago

Is DSA a mass party? From what I seen they never identify as a party, only as an org

[-] heresiarch@hexbear.net 17 points 3 days ago

This has IMO been one of the most significant developments since 2016. When I first joined I heard the same thing, but since then there is a vast majority consensus that DSA is a socialist party, though our exact strategies for party building are perhaps the most debated, written about, and analyzed aspect of our work right now.

[-] Dimmer06@hexbear.net 15 points 3 days ago

What was passed in regards to labor? And did the organization finally commit to good organizing or are they still planning on not planning anything?

[-] heresiarch@hexbear.net 15 points 3 days ago

The ongoing strategies around labor prevail in the passed resolutions. For labor folks all eyes are on May Day 2028 as an organizing goal. The National Labor Committee is still big into rank-and-file stuff. There's an ongoing national campaign to salt Amazon sites. EWOC has been growing. Also, the below language appears in a passed anti-Zionist resolution, but I can't speak to whether it has any teeth on the organizing end.

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