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[-] Rooty@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

The birth rate moral panic is 100% manufactured by neoliberal capitalists who simultaneously want high consumption and low wages, which is a logical impossibilty. You cannot have a consumerist society where the average consumer lives paycheck to paycheck

[-] AlexLost@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

If it's neoliberalism, why is the right always clamouring about it? I think you are misguided on your aim my friend. You are also right, the time of us having things and enjoying our leisure are in the process of being erased for the good old days of company towns and food lines.

[-] DrivebyHaiku@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

The "right" shy of outright fascists are neoliberals. The term was coined in the eighties and describes a system that like Liberalism classic works primarily off of an idea of a protected class of citizen (as opposed to lesser protected classes of non-citizen) with a series of fundemental "rights" to basic protected freedoms from government interference and choice of "style of life" based around a personal property centric system.

Where Neo-liberalism differs is it detests the welfare state, seeks widespread government deregulation as they see it as an economic deficit, practice widespread government austerity in public programs and seeks to privatize swaths of government services to create new market sectors.

Neo doesn't mean new in a "of the minute" kind of way. The people who came up with the distinction between liberal branches were describing the likes of Ronald Regan and Margret Thatcher.

[-] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago

I mean you're half right. In a zoo, the keepers care for their animals, making sure they're well fed, enriched, and healthy.

We're being farmed. They are using us to make money from our produce (labour). They're using us to make money. We're so over exploited we simply cannot afford to have children.

[-] TrollTrollrolllol@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

And they're burning down the farm for the insurance money at the same time.

[-] HurricaneLiz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Proud owner of a tubal litigation here

[-] REDACTED@infosec.pub 3 points 1 month ago

I'm genuinely afraid to get vasectomy, thinking "this is just a phase and l might change my mind later"

[-] pr0sp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

I suffer post vasectomy pain syndrome that comes and goes randomly over the pass of months, and still, it worth.

[-] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I wish I could feel comfortable bringing children into the world.

I really want to be a parent in my life

[-] DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

im not spending a fortune to raise a child when i can barely afford eggs

[-] ur_ONLEY_freind@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

Don't worry when they get desperate enough they'll make condoms illegal

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm trying to get pregnant, but it's kinda hard when you're a guy. I won't stop trying, tho. 🫡

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Nothing is impossible.

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Never give up 💪

[-] Chev@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Arnold Schwarzenegger did it, so can you 👍

[-] Sonor@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Slay, ~~queen~~ king!

[-] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I was born with a penis but Luigi Mangione activated my ovaries

[-] lena@gregtech.eu 2 points 1 month ago

Free estrogen!

[-] cannon_annon88@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago
[-] xavier666@lemmy.umucat.day 1 points 1 month ago

!lemmysilver

[-] chaogomu@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Want higher birthrates? Just convince people that tomorrow will be better than today.

That's how you see a spike in birth rates.

To maintain a steady birthrate, just convince potential parents that the world will not be any worse for their children than it is today.

See, easy.

[-] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

They're taking the opposite approach.

In the past families had a bunch of kids because they needed extra laborers to stay afloat, plus childhood mortality rates were so dire they needed spares to cover for the ones who wouldn't make it.

We're already seeing pushes towards removing child labor laws, and RFK Jr is well on his way to ensuring death from easily preventable diseases makes a comeback.

[-] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 0 points 1 month ago

You said ban birth control and porn? Got it.

[-] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

So that's why suddenly there's all this interest in banning porn

[-] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Also homosexuality, except for the wealthy.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 month ago

Track everything people do and arrest them for unauthorised opinions? Got it.

[-] TipsyMcGee@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

The proliferation of unathorized opinions is threatening democracy! Doubleplus ungood.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

UK is already on it, lock up anyone for speaking about pantomime action.

[-] TipsyMcGee@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

The UK is just ahead of the curve

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

lock up anyone for speaking about pantomime action.

They should have silently mime'd about it then, I guess

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Capitalist Corporations: .... hmmmm .... I guess there's no choice .... artificial human breeding it is!

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Capitalism would also charge for every part of the process, raising the price as some techno feudal lord thinks they can find the right balance between extinction pricing and maximum shareholder value.

[-] x4740N@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I feel like this is a plot of a dystopian movie somewhere where they breed artificial humans to make into slaves

[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 0 points 1 month ago

Then they do the calculation on the costs to raise the children and decide it's not economically viable.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

It’s always economically viable, just a matter of tracking all the expenses and adding it to the child’s debt. As soon as it’s old enough to work you can garnish it’s wages for all that unpaid debt

[-] droans@midwest.social 2 points 1 month ago

A man must always live by his work, and his wages must at least be sufficient to maintain him. They must even upon most occasions be somewhat more; otherwise it would be impossible for him to bring up a family, and the race of such workmen could not last beyond the first generation...

Every species of animals naturally multiplies in proportion to the means of their subsistence, and no species can ever multiply beyond it. But in civilised society it is only among the inferior ranks of people that the scantiness of subsistence can set limits to the further multiplication of the human species; and it can do so in no other way than by destroying a great part of the children which their fruitful marriages produce.

The liberal reward of labour, by enabling them to provide better for their children, and consequently to bring up a greater number, naturally tends to widen and extend those limits. It deserves to be remarked, too, that it necessarily does this as nearly as possible in the proportion which the demand for labour requires. If this demand is continually increasing, the reward of labour must necessarily encourage in such a manner the marriage and multiplication of labourers, as may enable them to supply that continually increasing demand by a continually increasing population.

  • Adam Smith, the father of capitalism
[-] Zentron@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

They hate Smith almost as much as Marx

[-] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

On a more positive note the newest IPCC report on climate has population decline being the biggest positive impact on climate change, so keep at it!

[-] Newsteinleo@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago

A friend of mine has three kids and works 70 hours a week. He is not able to make enough to support his family, and social services have been cut so much that his only option is to take out a personal loan, which will only make his problem worse.

[-] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

14 hours leaves you barely 2 hours of personal time in a day. That's barely enough to just eat and maybe relax but then if you have 3 kids even that time is gone taking care of them. How and why would anyone put themselves through this, like after the first or second kid wouldn't your own limits become apparent

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

I want biological kids, and I'm right about the point in my life where it would make the most sense to have them. But whenever family asks about it, I tell them I'm not raising children in this kind of administration. They try to suggest that it's not that bad and I stand firm that they're not seeing grandbabies until the government stops being so fashy.

Actually, millennials could probably hold our hypothetical babies hostage, see what's more important to them.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Actually, millennials could probably hold our hypothetical babies hostage

Given how many kids are in some combination of foster systems, detention centers, corrections programs, or concentration camps, maybe millennials need to start finding the actual babies and liberating them.

[-] toad31@lemmy.cif.su -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don't want to bring kids in this world that will inevitably grow up with a father when I take out all my frustration and grievances on members of the ruling class.

They're gonna wish I used a guillotine.

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