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"ackshually mobile games don't count as real games 🤓" - lemmy users
"women avoid me 🤓" - same lemmy users
UK who play mobile games
So not gaming culture.
Shame and exclusion on display. Why do you want to put people down?
lol, wut?
Do you really need that explained to you? The article is about exclusion and shame in the gaming community and you responded in an exclusionary and shameful way.
Excluding and shaming who? Nobody.
I am not convinced that MOBILE GAMING is a culture. Gaming culture typically is not mobile gaming. Or at least it would not be where I would look to have this discussion, and in fact seems to avoid the real issue: online gaming in the popular spaces: xbox, ps2, and PC.
I don't play these types of games with randos on open mics anymore, but it definitely felt taboo when a girl was speaking. It's too bad there weren't just as many to normalize it then everyone would finally hopefully move past it... Maybe?
Do mobile games have voice chats? I've never seen one that did.
just like in real life.
online there are the sexual guys who will buy you anything to be theirs.
And there are the annoying sexist ones. I think it often has to do with a primitive feeling in the guy of "there is a female right there that im interacting with but she isnt having sex with me. i am thus annoyed." so the male does mean pokes at the female because it's "her fault" they arent having sex. i've seen it a trillion times. "why arent you MY bitch?" pokes rudely
And lastly there is the good type of male who, just like the good type of female, can have fun with you while playing the game together and enjoying the play; simple as that.
There was that study that found that the men most aggressive towards women in gaming were those less skilled than them, I think about that one a lot
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Who play mobile games
So not proper gaming like on console or PC?
This is pretty clear to anyone who has ever played a game of Counterstrike or whatever and a woman makes the mistake of using voice chat. You'll get the whole gamut from misogynistic nonsense to the most awkward and creepy attempts to hit on them possible, pretty much every time.
But if you just treat them like normal you can make some good friends. I had a group of women I played CS with for quite a while after playing with them as a random and just treating them like regular people for once.
It takes absolutely nothing to just not act like you're amazed at talking to a woman. They're just people trying to have fun in the game, just like you and every other teammate you've had. Don't treat them any differently.
It's just one joke, over and over again. I'm a guy, but one of the reasons I stopped going to lan parties was hearing this same few jokes again and again whenever a woman showed up. If it wasn't a woman, it would be something else from the limited number of topics and opinions they had. When it wasn't frustrating, it was simply boring.
What's the one joke?
"girls don't play video games"
Oh, right, THAT one.
Probably "A WOMAN is in the VC? AWOOOGA amirite guys?!?!"
Yeah, except this was irl at a lan part. Where they could see the woman's lack of response. Whether they came with their boyfriend or alone, they never showed up to a second time.
I’m not into gaming, but my wife used to be into it. When we were dating, we’d play call of duty together (side-by-side consoles). She’d get on voice chat, get teased a bit by teenage boys, and then proceed to utterly destroy them. Sometimes they’d scream and curse, accuse her of cheating, accuse her of having a guy play for her (lol her man sucks at this), and so on. She’d just mock them, call them horrible names, and then specifically target and spawn camp the little shits until they rage quit.
It was fucking awesome, and it was alway a laugh riot for the other (more mature, less sexist) folks in the match. I love her so much.
I only ever really saw the clsssic toxic gamer behavior flourish once most games switched from having private dedicated servers ran by the players that almost always had an admin present to handle toxicity to unmoderated developer hosted servers no players have any bit of control over.
Wild how removing people who managed the player's behavior makes the bad behavior intensified.
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I agree that most competitive games tend to go that way. My ex and I played a lot of League of Legends in a small friend group together (where this did not happen, thank god), and if playing with "externals" it was unbelievable what bullshit she had to deal with. and although most of the time the creeps bit off more than they could chew, it must have felt pretty bad, regardless of what me and our friends did or said.
Anyone with experience in non-competitive game settings to share?
Folks in MMOs tend to be more chill in my experience. In such a large sample of people you're going to find a few dickbags who think they're hilarious or the kind who will DM sexual harassment, but the majority of people just do not care and are happy to play the game. Toxicity tends to crop up around entitlement to loot and perceived performance rather than gender.
Maybe in more current MMOs, because back in my WoW days (2013 and earlier), misogyny was rampant
That's what I mean about the large sample size. It only takes the existence of a single asshole to ruin the experience for a target of harassment or casual phobic comment not even directed at them intentionally. Blizzard won't ban these people, so they're allowed to exist in the public chat channels, and they can say pretty much whatever the hell they want.
But what I mean is most people do not side with them. An asshole will drop a transphobic comment specifically because they know most people will take offense and argue with them. The general advice is to disable public communication and stick to organizing via guilds and Discord servers which are actually moderated. If the game were a democracy, those people would punished and/or removed.
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"Researchers surveyed 1,000 women of all ages across the UK who play mobile games."
Shows a picture of a woman holding what appears to be a PS4 controller.
Poifect.
I think it's a black PS5 controller. No light.
Trackpad looked wrong is why I went PS4, but yeah you're probably right.
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Competitive gaming is a cesspool regardless of gender but I feel for women who have to deal with sexism on top of the default toxicity. Hopefully things will improve over time but i don't have high hope for the near future sadly
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oh dang, women have been telling you for the past like 40 years that video games are an incredibly exclusionary space and turns out they weren't just lying??? crazy, it's almost like we should be listening to people when they have problems in a community. i mean jfc people actually needed a study to prove this? ask any woman who's ever attempted to speak in game chat what happens, just ask.
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Given where this is coming from, im waiting for the drop where they blame the tranas community for this. Somehow.
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