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[-] nocturne@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 month ago

He needs to hurry up and od on ketamine before he figures out to upload his consciousness into neuralink and we end up in Altered Carbon.

[-] LORDSMEGMA@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

It takes a lot of k to od. Cant we get him addicted to fent or something quicker?

[-] LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

If he uploads his consciousness I'm going to download a copy of it, mod it into the Sims, and torture it on loop.

[-] thelivefive@startrek.website 5 points 1 month ago

He also said he'd have people on mars by 2024...

[-] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Do you guys remember how clean the sky looked when we were all in lock down? 'Cause I do.

[-] AoxoMoxoA@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

That was the best, even though you could still look up on a clear night and count 40 satellites shooting across the sky in an hour but not seeing the aircraft was sweet

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Didn't they just make this illegal in Florida

[-] KaChilde@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

You’ve already won Elon. You’re a trillionaire. You don’t need to find new ways to rape the planet and its inhabitants. Please just fuck off and leave the rest of us to die in peace.

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Emphasis on "tiny" adjustments, per the article. I don't think Elmo comprehends just how much surface area is going to be required to make any measurable let alone meaningful impact, nor the cost of hefting all of that mass up there and keeping it there.

This whole crackhead idea is completely infeasible. But he probably hopes it'll help him scam the government out of a bunch of money trying (and failing), while wasting vast amounts of rocket fuel.

[-] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Usually when people talk about this kind of thing, they suggest making a sun shade and delivering it to the Lagrange point between the earth and sun. It certainly feels more reasonable to do it that way. But I wonder which method really is more feasible. (Obviously both methods aren't realistic right now)

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Well, two things about that.

One, the L1 Lagrange point between the Earth and Sun is further out than the orbit of the moon. Even without doing any math, just a cursory observation of how shadows work will illustrate that, given that the moon itself can just barely cover the disc of the sun from where it is, any such object placed there would need to have a diameter larger than that of the moon in order to completely block the sun's light. Or some appreciable and nontrivial fraction of the diameter of the moon if you only want to block part of the sun's light. Lofting something that massive up there and more importantly keeping it there given that it'd also be well within the gravitational influence of the moon would be quite the challenge. ("Quite the challenge," by the way, is rocket scientist talk for, "This is complete science fiction, and whoever suggested it is insane.")

Point two is that the Deep Space Climate Observatory is currently already parked there.

[-] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago

You wouldn't be blocking all of the suns light. That'd kill us. Blocking 2% would be a noticeable "fix". It's been a thought out on paper project for decades. It's "possible" in the strictest sense, but would take something (or many smaller somethings) the size of most of South America to do. It would take thousands of launches to a destination around 800,000 miles away, and then it would also all have to be able to adjust for orbital changes because the lagrange point isn't a stable orbit.

We just need another massive once a millennium volcano eruption. Throw the world into chaos and starve half the population to death while the earth is half covered in atmospheric ash for a year. The slow Thanos snap.

[-] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

the lagrange point isn't a stable orbit.

That's totally true, but to be fair, it's still more stable and requires less maneuvering than low earth orbit. So if we're comparing the two orbits...

We just need another massive once a millennium volcano eruption. Throw the world into chaos and starve half the population to death while the earth is half covered in atmospheric ash for a year. The slow Thanos snap.

I gotta be honest, that sounds like a less-than-optimal solution. But I like that you're thinking outside the box!

[-] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago

We need to stop letting supervillains pollute the sky with garbage. As well as a moratorium against satellite quantity, and satellites that serve any purpose outside of science and some communication. (Starlink should be deorbited as well, if for no other reason than the atmospheric pollution created by the short life cycle of those satellites.)

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

We already have the answer of how to deal with this:

We can and have shut this thing down when the political will is available. The efficiencies developed in agriculture and manufacturing have shown that the vast majority of economic activity is effectively idle, not necessary, and purely for the purpose of creating the impression of larger economies than are actually present.

No one starved due to lock-downs. No governments collapsed. Netflix views increased. People took on hobbies and got more exercise.

We have an exact template of what we would need to do to save our climate future.

All that we lack is the political will. And no, geoengineering solutions to prop up and support a broken approach to economics isn't a solution.

[-] lilith267@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

While I agree that we have the technology to wildly decreas emissions by just cutting down on inefficient production, I do want to point out people did infact starve due to covid/lockdowns. Many lost jobs, big corps took the opportunity to run mom and pop shops out of buissness, prices skyrocketed. My family wen't from scrapping by to relying on food drives

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No one starved due to lock-downs.

Not true, the pandemic caused major inflation, doing the same for a prolonged period of time would be devastating.
But there are ways we can cut CO2 without increasing inflation. Like make the use of private jets illegal.
USA could cut their CO2 in half by following the model Denmark has developed since the 70's.
Denmark has higher industrial and agricultural production than USA, and has more data centers per capita than USA, yet we only release half the CO2 per capita. And that's without using nuclear!

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

Now he's getting ideas from Monty Burns.

Someone tell him how plants get energy to stay alive.

[-] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Dude couldn't even build a tunnel

[-] ScrambledEggs@lazysoci.al 2 points 1 month ago

No sun for the poors

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

He's cooked, pack it in. If we're lucky he'll fall in love with an AI pigeon and live out the rest of his days in squalor, which is the only part of Nicola Tesla's legacy he deserves.

[-] Tuxaton@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago
[-] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Guess they figured out how to bring scarcity to the solar market.

[-] devolution@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Can people stop listening to this lying robot dicked fuck?

[-] Boozilla@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Conservatives shit their pants over things like SNAP and DEI. But they see this fucking moron and say: give him all the tax dollars.

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

"Guy who sells rockets proposes launching a million satellites"

He's a grifting idiot. He cant even get self driving cars working. Until he finishes that work he should sit in the corner with a dunce hat on and leave the talking to people who arent failures.

[-] fox2263@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Where’s Marjorie?? THERE HE HIS MARGE THE WEATHER CONTROLLER

[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 1 month ago

Can we not indulge into the fantasy of a wanna be super villain?

[-] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Didn't MGT specifically make fighting this lunacy her cause?

[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

TL;DR: viable last-ditch option would resemble Highlander 2 in terms of putting one corporation in charge of "protecting" the planet.

Okay, so I was keeping the idea of using deliberate "global dimming" in my back-pocket just so it wouldn't worm it's way through the zeitgeist. It's a viable last-ditch option, but it comes with steep drawbacks. But since we're here now, fuck it.

We already know that, thanks to requiring shipping vessels to use low-sulfur fuel, cloud seeding can actually reduce solar gain. The problem is that it also blocks out a lot of the light needed for photosynthesis. So this approach punches down on the environment in a completely different way. As for people, while global warming will absolutely impact agriculture, so would less sunlight.

https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-how-low-sulphur-shipping-rules-are-affecting-global-warming/

So we could just use airplanes and cloud-seeding. Or we could increase particulates in the atmosphere. Or, as Elon suggests, fly satellites to do the job. The tradeoffs here are awful: disrupt where rain happens, raise lung cancer risks globally, or catapult one man into multi-trilliionaire status while they charge every government on earth for the privilege. Plus, each of those options are more or less forever if we never get around to carbon sequestration that actually works.

We should seriously considering doing anything else first.

Edit: I know I didn't invent this idea. Rather, I just didn't want to add to any consensus around it.

[-] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Trees sequester carbon. Trees work.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Plus, each of those options are more or less forever if we never get around to carbon sequestration that actually works.

Obligatory reminder that the easiest by far way of sequestering carbon is to simply not extract it from the ground in the first place.

[-] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

That's such an unhelpful statement. Idk what made you think it's obligatory. Everyone is talking about ACTIVE SEQUESTRATION. Further extraction of more carbon from current natural sequestration is undoing what already has been done. We need to create ways to artificially sequester the carbon while ALSO limiting emissions.

[-] gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I think there's more than 40% of the people on earth, at least in most major western country, that need to hear that statement. How about you calm down when talking to people trying to help.

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 0 points 1 month ago

Honestly I prefer shades ot aerosols but would prefer it at a la grange than in orbit.

[-] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

People are over complicating this whole thing really.

History has the answers we need to the climate crisis. If we just offer the weather goblin a fine wheel of fresh cheese and four comely maidens he will reverse climate change and we will all have both a bountiful harvest and a plump red apple as his thanks.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

That doesn’t sound right, but due to the degradation of the American educational system, I don’t have the wherewithal to argue

[-] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

American schools fail the young with a lackadaisical or even nonexistent approach to goblin education.

[-] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 0 points 1 month ago

Fuck it. Let's just make a Dyson sphere. If you can already circle the planet with enough satellites to cool it while letting plants still grow you're well on your way

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

The sun is a bit bigger than the earth. Dyson sphere goes around the star, not the planet.

[-] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago

I guess it might not come across in text. I was more mocking Musk's tendency to over promise and under deliver by taking it one step further

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I will say it again:

Musk is not an engineer. E.g. he has not played Kerbel Space Program.

He demonstrably does not understand the tyranny of the rocket equation, and how obscenely uneconomical getting anything to, and doing anything in, space is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsiolkovsky_rocket_equation


Geoengineering is something worth seriously discussing (and TBH I hope he draws attention to it), and "solar shades" are theoretically neat, but this is not the way. Not with the trajectory of launch tech we have.

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

I hate this accusation. It is demonstrably false and reeks of a “No True Scotsman” fallacy. He knows a lot more about rockets than you… or at least he did during the Falcon 9 days. Watch any technical interview with him from ~5 years ago and he can very clearly explain why they made the engineering decisions they did.

That being said, his involvement in the development has obviously stopped because he can barely put together a coherent sentence about Starship these days.

Just because he’s the most dangerous fascist on the planet right now doesn’t automatically mean he’s never been an engineer.

[-] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

If you said this a decade ago, sure. But at this point there have been so many examples of musk misunderstanding fundamental concepts in areas that he likes to pretend to be an expert on that he doesn't get benefit of the doubt. The dude is only good at being rich and bullying people. He has no engineering acumen, be it software, vehicles, or spacecraft.

He's good at repeating things that smart people have told him, but as soon as he is asked to think rather than simply regurgitate, he's useless.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

He still is involved with engineering things, people just want to think he's not so they can think less of him.

E.g with Starship it was his decision (that he had to convince everyone on) to use stainless steel for Starship. If I recall correctly, his current focus is on the raptor engine.

So far SS seems to have been working well for them, with the ship surviving some brutal re-entries even with missing heat shield tiles.

This is the progress they're making on Raptor. And for anyone that doesn't know, Raptor are the first Full-Flow Staged Combustion Cycle (FFSCC) engines ever flown. A lot of the reductions you're seeing between the engines is from moving to 3D printing all those channels within the tubes.

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