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[-] natecox@programming.dev 124 points 1 month ago

These posters should be illegal.

[-] positiveWHAT@lemmy.world 64 points 1 month ago

It's a nice reminder that one is in a capitalist hellhole. Like taken from a dystopian game.

[-] notreallyhere@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

is this poster real tho?

Seems low effort

[-] 50_centavos@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Is this dystopian game something I can afford with my savings from not paying union dues?

[-] jqubed@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

I’ve seen several from this campaign and they’re so dumb I feel like someone was maliciously compliant in making these so that Delta’s opposition to the union would actually encourage more people to vote to join. Like, management came to someone in marketing, but that person actually wanted to support the union effort.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 1 month ago

In a lot of countries it would be illegal.

In a lot of countries the unions became powerful enough to be governments, and implemented anti-union busting laws.

For some reason the United States seems to have skipped a bunch of the social development that went on in other countries. Unfortunately this is probably because of the American psyche and their obsession with the idea that rags to riches is possible, despite all the evidence. So nobody wants to limit their own potential wealth by giving away money to the workers, just in case one day they become the wealthy. The end result is that a bunch of people have to work for Amazon.

[-] Broadfern@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago

That’s like one month of US health insurance next year. Way more than worth it over being at the whims of some fuckhead corporation

[-] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[-] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago

I guess Delta thinks their employees are complete fucking morons.

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 5 points 1 month ago

Given Delta hired them and saw their education level, they’re probably right.

[-] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Well, most of them are Americans...

/flame, I jest

[-] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago
[-] Old_Jimmy_Twodicks@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 month ago

Wages can be exchanged for goods and services.

[-] if_only@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

Unions can be exchanged for goods and services.

[-] zedgeist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Onions can be exchanged for bideo bames 👽

[-] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 month ago

It’s a complicated concept but higher wages means you make more money.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 16 points 1 month ago

Many years ago I had to explain to a coworker how progressive taxation works. He was like "that's a great idea! We should do that! It's stupid that now your pay goes up but you take home less because you get taxed more"

I had to tell him, yes it is a good idea. It's how it works now. You don't get more pay and suddenly your whole income is taxed more.

He'd had no idea

I’ve literally heard coworkers mention the whole “I actually don’t want a raise because my taxes would go up and I’d make less” bullshit before. I do what I can to redirect them when I hear it, but some people are extremely dug into their worldview and don’t want to be helped. Like acknowledging a progressive tax rate would require acknowledging that their entire concept of income and taxation is built on a lie.

[-] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Higher whatsit? Huh? What are your taking about? These words don't normally go together I don't understand.

[-] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No they don't.

Source: A union-busting multinational faceless corporation that I'm a slave to

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 17 points 1 month ago

When I worked at Best buy over 10 years ago they had the exact same propaganda. You know instead of union dues you could buy an Xbox! (From us no less!)

...okay I added that last bit but it was implied

[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

In Australia, Union fees are tax deductible.

They don't cost you anything in the end.

[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Thats not how tax deductions work.

That just means you’re not paying taxes on the income. It’s not like you get the entire $700 back in taxes, because your tax rate probably isn’t 100%. If you pay 30% in taxes, (no clue what you actually pay), writing off the $700 would simply mean you pay $210 less on your taxes.

[-] zloubida@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

Union dues aren't an income.

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[-] JelleWho@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

It cost them 700, not you. You will gain from an Union

[-] Woht24@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

No it'll cost you, it comes out of your after tax wage. But it's an investment into you and your colleagues futures for better wages, stronger protections and benefits.

[-] mirshafie@europe.pub 2 points 1 month ago

The protections are key here. I'd take a slightly lower wage for a healthy work environment any day, and I know that most people agree.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Also if the company refuses and hires scabs you can always put the money towards hiring union enforcers. Mind you we aren't quite there again but I don't we're too far off either, showing up to a scabs home at 2AM to have a nice talk or ambushing the boss on his way home. The glory days may be long gone but I hope to see new glory forged.

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[-] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

It comes out of their pocket because unions tend to negotiate for better pay

[-] Kirp123@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

In my country you can get union dues back as a tax deduction.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 1 month ago

It costs you 700 now and it costs them an unknown amount in the future. They just don't like it because they suspect it'll be quite a lot more than the 700 that you're paying to join. They're right too.

But union dues are annoying in the moment, because when it happens all you see is a reduction in your pay and initially no change in working conditions. That's why they have posters like that up, because even though intellectually people understand that being in a union will long-term result in better pay, in the short term it does effectively result in a temporary pay cut, which can be hard if you're already not really very well paid.

If you're joining an established union sometimes they will be smart and not charge members until they've renegotiated their salaries. But that only happens if you're joining a already formed union.

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[-] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Tape the meme onto the poster

[-] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 5 points 1 month ago

I like how the URL listed beneath the Delta logo (https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2019/5/10/18564745/delta-anti-union-video-game-poster) just goes to a site with fake statistics and SEO slop now.

"near me in USA"
"Looking for services near you? Find reliable and experienced in the USA."
"15000+ Services Provider"
"Professional services Near Me"
etc, etc.

[-] buttnugget@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

It should be illegal to put up stuff like this.

[-] XM34@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

In the civilised world (Aka everywhere but the US), it is!

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[-] hateisreality@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Haha my Union Dues... 240/yr.

Pay in the five years before the union....no increase. 20 years of union, pay up 100%.

[-] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 2 points 1 month ago

Scumbags. What the hell is this 'murkin propaganda? It's like the whole country is unironically trying to become the Sith.

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[-] iridebikes@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Delta knows their audience. Many pilots lean Republican and see themselves as rugged individualists that have made their own path. Meanwhile, the only reason they're flying in many cases are socially funded training programs. Many from the military.

[-] Sharlot@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Classic misdirection: compare dues to a toy instead of the extra pay, healthcare, and protections.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

This is why corporate America wants our population uneducated and tuned out and hooked on AI slop and distractions.

[-] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

My union dues are about 800 a year, we'd be lucky to make only 10,000 less a year without the union, and have way less protections. Joining a union is one of the best investments you can make.

[-] not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

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