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[-] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 66 points 2 weeks ago

WE. DON'T. WANT. THIS.

Mozilla, for the love of god, stop cramming AI into the browser when the vast majority of your users just want a privacy-respecting browser that works.

I've said it before, and I've said it again: I will not donate any more money to the Mozilla foundation until they stop cramming AI into everything, and you should too.

[-] goatinspace@feddit.org 14 points 2 weeks ago

They might be getting money from google that tells them what to do.

[-] kuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 weeks ago

Nah, Google funds them so they can point at them and say they aren't a monopoly, directing what they do would ruin that.

Mozilla's perfectly capable of making dumb decisions on their own, they do that plenty

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[-] meejle@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago

Every product we build must give people agency in how it works. Privacy, data use, and AI must be clear and understandable. Controls must be simple. AI should always be a choice — something people can easily turn off. People should know why a feature works the way it does and what value they get from it.

Come on, this isn't Reddit, at least skim the article before you start with the performative outrage.

[-] CatsGoMOW@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago

It should be something that people can easily turn ON.

[-] korendian@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It is opt in, this article is click bait.

Directly from the horses mouth:

"In Firefox, you’ll never be locked into one ecosystem or have AI forced into your browsing experience. You decide when, how or whether to use it at all. You’ve already seen this approach in action through some of our latest features like the AI chatbot in the sidebar for desktop or Shake to Summarize on iOS.

Now, we’re excited to invite you to help shape the work on our next innovation: an AI Window. It’s a new, intelligent and user-controlled space we’re building in Firefox that lets you chat with an AI assistant and get help while you browse, all on your terms. Completely opt-in, you have full control, and if you try it and find it’s not for you, you can choose to switch it off."

https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-window/

[-] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 19 points 2 weeks ago

We'll just ignore the fact that the chat bot menu setting randomly appeared after an update. Very opt in. The only way to kill the task it sparks is to go into about:config and kill all the browser.ml.* options.

No one here cares what Firefox says because their actions have already hurt the trust in them.

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[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 2 weeks ago

Except I literally had to dig through the about: config settings to turn off AI in my browsing experience. So they are already lying

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[-] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

Any articles can be a click bait. The reality is what matters.

I didnt turn on AI in Firefox myself. It just appeared there after an update and was turned on. It is not opt in but an opt out.

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[-] SlackerPreface57@feddit.online 27 points 2 weeks ago

Remember the way to disable all AI in Firefox.
about:config
browser.ml.enable -> false

[-] sep@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

As long as there is a easy way to disable it. And clearly communicated what they are doing. I do not begrudge mozilla trying to remain competitive with mainstream.

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[-] TachyonTele@piefed.social 14 points 2 weeks ago

Nnnoooooo you dumb bastards

[-] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago

Just use a folk of it at this point. Zen, Floorp, Waterfox, LibreWolf, Fennec, and IronFox.

[-] 3abas@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I've been really enjoying zen.

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[-] ChuckTheMonkey@fedia.io 12 points 2 weeks ago

It's very sad as I don't think there's a proper alternative in short term. In the end, I am afraid that I'll have to keep using Firefox because it's essentially the "lesser evil",

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[-] Soulphite@reddthat.com 12 points 2 weeks ago

Yall saw Microsoft push stupid Copilot on everyone and fail miserably and said, "hold my beer!"

Bros, take the hint! No one wants AI bullshit. Firefox was the goto switch when Google Chrome was using 37 processes and 98% memory for one website... yall are fuckin up!

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[-] karashta@piefed.social 11 points 2 weeks ago

Jfc. The stupidest timeline, I fucking swear.

[-] sonofearth@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

As long as it is open source, it doesn’t matter. Forks like Librewolf will disable it.

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[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago

WTF man, I just want a fucking browser.

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[-] Flamekebab@piefed.social 10 points 2 weeks ago

Ew ew ew.

No one is asking for AI, you weirdos!

[-] billwashere@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Firefox to evolve into not existing.

[-] raldone01@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I just found out about this on mobile firefox must be quite new too. That default opt in is really disgusting.

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If you're going to add AI shit it should be something people can easily turn on. It should be off by default.

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Not only the setting off, but any sort of behind the scenes stuff related to it disabled as well. No automatic updating, no background processes to "keep it ready, just in case". Do that when it's enabled.

[-] AlexLost@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Hey tech companies. Consumers do not want more AI, they want less of it. Maybe we just need to get the word out?

[-] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 6 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly this. I would love to see just one tech company stand up and say we are not doing AI, our AI budget is $0 and our product will not ship with AI. If you really want to use AI with our system you can download a plug-in or something but we won't waste our time writing one.

They would get a million users overnight.

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[-] typicalDude778@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago

LibreWolf all the way

[-] CAVOK@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

They're going to use AI to identify and block ads for me, right? Or let me set a cookie preference and automatically apply that to every page I visit?

That would be rather useful things to have AI for IMHO.

[-] termaxima@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

But why !? Chatbots are useful enough, I don't need AI anywhere else than when I explicitly choose to use it on my terms !

You wanna make money ? Make a chatbot that lies less and/or doesn't reinforce people into their delusions, or one that runs for cheaper, or both.

AI is useful. Just like knives are useful. Doesn't mean I want every object I own to also somehow be or contain multiple knives 😅

More often than not, a faster horse is actually all we need.

[-] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

Waterfox. LibreWolf. Fennec.

Just use a fork; rawdogging Firefox is already a bit crazy.

[-] Turret3857@infosec.pub 3 points 2 weeks ago

IronFox over Fennec

[-] frunch@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

I've been using Firefox for longer than i can remember. That said, I'm ready to make the leap if necessary. What's the next browser to succeed Firefox? Suggestions??

[-] pupbiru@aussie.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago

imo anything firefox-based until servo or ladybird matures

i use waterfox, i know a lot of people use librewolf

remember that switching to anything chromium (like vivaldi, brave) still gives google power. on web standards at least, mozilla still fights for us (and is arguably the only one protecting us from shit like putting tracking stabdards directly into the web spec)

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[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Over to Waterfox then.

I don't care if there is a way to 'disable it' (there won't be) - if it's there, it not on my PC.

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[-] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago
[-] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

Make sure you keep a list of all of these companies pushing ai bullshit. When the bubble pops, do not go back to them, do not give them anything, fuck them for being greedy idiots

I will gladly support initiatives that are anti-ai.

[-] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 weeks ago

When talking about it earlier, they mentioned the integrated AI would be local-only... Which sounds better, but I doubt is even possible (imagine all the low-end devices attempting to generate a response or analyse the website on their 6-8-year old CPUs...).

[-] XenGi@feddit.org 4 points 2 weeks ago

Can't wait for ladybird to arrive to leave all this current browser crap behind me.

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[-] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

Ready for this internet fad to die and go back to stone tablets.

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