The first option uses AI to analyze a user’s video selfie, which Discord says never leaves the user’s device.
Discord in a respects is just a souped up website. You have to submit a video selfie to the website.
They lie as easy as they breathe.
can i just hold my phone camera up to a video of a US member of congress
It's really frustrating to see the discourse surrounding this when libre software that does what Discord does exists and has for a long time but it's "a pain" to migrate to or it does not have 100% feature parity so let's phone our representatives (email...Discord support?) instead of just ripping the bandage off and using already-existing software that works and respects you. The stakes of digital life are raising in this era and it's time to start acting like it. It isn't going to be easy and I'm sorry, but I do not know what else to say to it anymore. We have the tools to resist this. It will be difficult at first, and then it won't be.
each of those features you blithely dismiss is critical to someone and people have broad networks that might include multiple of those use-cases.
you literally said we do not have the tools to resist because there is not feature parity
it's time to bring back IRC servers
Hexbear BBS, when?
Hexbear needs IRC
PHBB has been tried and trusted for decades!
When is Hexbear going to join in on this? I hate to think I might be talking to someone who isn't a dope bear
soon we’re going to have beanis verification (you have to prove you eat beans at least once per day)
Upload a smellmail of your fart so our ai may identify the bean you consumed.
Everyone loves their own brand. 
Who is to say Hexbear doesn't monitor your posting times to see if they can deduce your working schedule and to ensure you are posting from Moscow?
I just have very bad sleep hygiene,ok?
As long as you sleep under the shadow of the Red Square.
I, too, post without interruption to make sure the feds have no idea when I sleep.
If all the big apps force legal identification of its users everybody will go back to runescape.
Vindicated for dropping off Discord and it's shitty endless chat interface after a few frustrating months of using it back in 2020.
To be honest I'm pretty tired of being vindicated, when do people start listening?
Replace "tankies" with "free software nerds" if you want.
They don't.
True, I was outraged when Earwolf closed its forums and moved all of its podcast discussion to Discord
Documentation, bug reporting and troubleshooting is often done through Discord now! It's absurd! The worst format possible for important archival and discovery. We can (we did!) do better.
I use Discord as my primary way of talking to my patrons and clients, the majority of whom would not be ok with this (neither am I). Seems like I'm fucked then. I was already struggling financially, last thing I need is to lose my ability to communicate with the few people left who can still actually afford art.
Does anyone know of a similar system that can function like a discord channel and doesn't require any coding skill or knowledge to create an account and sign up to a server? I need to make the transition to any new format as painless as possible to ensure as many people as possible actually go through with it.
Matrix is kind of slow and clunky, but if you sign up in the default instance it doesn't take any knowledge to set up or join a channel.
Have you looked into Stoat? I've just started experimenting with it lately.
I hate to say it, but my band uses Discord for our communications. We have channels for each song we're working on, channels for both local and touring shows, and channels for general chat/goofing around.
Any alternative apps that won't require us to show our faces, that we could maybe set up in the same way? I ain't gonna let them have my face just so I can talk to those 3 goobers.
Yeah, this sucks. Discord has been a great tool as a slow chat room for a group of irl friends
Seems like not submitting will just limit "age-restricted content", and if truly forced you can probably just upload any image from the internet?
Telegram unironically may be the easiest, unironic since you probably won't see it recommended online, but it has channels, no need to self-Host, everyone can access even without having an account
Rock on, ty!
Even if I were willing to trust Discord with my ID (I'm not), a very large number of other people aren't. This will torpedo the platform's utility.
gonna get all my friends back on blackberry messenger
The internet is officially dead
So it's mandatory age estimation or verification? You can't just opt out of verifying to stay on family-friendly only servers? This bites
You can have an account and access most features if you don't do the age verification but other stuff will remain locked unless you do it.
Thank you for clarifying. The article was unclear to me on that point. I took 'global' to mean 'for all users' not 'worldwide'. Shoddy writing or did I miss something in the article?
got your face ID right here.
used to be an app called guilded that was more feature rich but it died
Can someone post the article text? Paywalled
Bet/hope you're able to trick the face ID
Discord announced on Monday that it’s rolling out age verification on its platform globally starting next month, when it will automatically set all users’ accounts to a “teen-appropriate” experience unless they demonstrate that they’re adults.
Users who aren’t verified as adults will not be able to access age-restricted servers and channels, won’t be able to speak in Discord’s livestream-like “stage” channels, and will see content filters for any content Discord detects as graphic or sensitive. They will also get warning prompts for friend requests from potentially unfamiliar users, and DMs from unfamiliar users will be automatically filtered into a separate inbox.
Direct messages and servers that are not age-restricted will continue to function normally, but users won’t be able to send messages or view content in an age-restricted server until they complete the age check process, even if it’s a server they were part of before age verification rolled out. Savannah Badalich, Discord’s global head of product policy, said in an interview with The Verge that those servers will be “obfuscated” with a black screen until the user verifies they’re an adult. Users also won’t be able to join any new age-restricted servers without verifying their age.
Discord’s global age verification launch is part of a wave of similar moves at other online platforms, driven by an international legal push for age checks and stronger child safety measures. This is not the first time Discord has implemented some form of age verification, either. It initially rolled out age checks for users in the UK and Australia last year, which some users figured out how to circumvent using Death Stranding’s photo mode. Badalich says Discord “immediately fixed it after a week,” but expects users will continue finding creative ways to try getting around the age checks, adding that Discord will “try to bug bash as much as we possibly can.”
It’s not just teens trying to cheat the system who might attempt to dodge age checks. Adult users could avoid verifying, as well, due to concerns around data privacy, particularly if they don’t want to use an ID to verify their age. In October, one of Discord’s former third-party vendors suffered a data breach that exposed users’ age verification data, including images of government IDs.
A government ID might still be required for age verification in its global rollout. According to Discord, to remove the new “teen-by-default” changes and limitations, “users can choose to use facial age estimation or submit a form of identification to [Discord’s] vendor partners, with more options coming in the future.”
The first option uses AI to analyze a user’s video selfie, which Discord says never leaves the user’s device. If the age group estimate (teen or adult) from the selfie is incorrect, users can appeal it or verify with a photo of an identity document instead. That document will be verified by a third party vendor, but Discord says the images of those documents “are deleted quickly — in most cases, immediately after age confirmation.”
Badalich also says after the October data breach, Discord “immediately stopped doing any sort of age verification flows with that vendor” and is now using a different third-party vendor. She adds, “We’re not doing biometric scanning [or] facial recognition. We’re doing facial estimation. The ID is immediately deleted. We do not keep any information around like your name, the city that you live in, if you used a birth certificate or something else, any of that information.”
However, some users may not have to go through either form of age verification. Discord is also rolling out an age inference model that analyzes metadata like the types of games a user plays, their activity on Discord, and behavioral signals like signs of working hours or the amount of time they spend on Discord.
“If we have a high confidence that they are an adult, they will not have to go through the other age verification flows,” Badalich says.
She goes on to explain that the addition of age assurance will mainly impact adult content: “A majority of people on Discord are not necessarily looking at explicit or graphic content. When we say that, we’re really talking about things that are truly adult content [and] age inappropriate for a teen. So, the way that it will work is a majority of people are not going to see a change in their experience.”
Even so, there’s still a risk that some users will leave Discord as a result of the age verification rollout. “We do expect that there will be some sort of hit there, and we are incorporating that into what our planning looks like,” Badalich says. “We’ll find other ways to bring users back.”
Discord is also rolling out an age inference model that analyzes metadata like the types of games a user plays, their activity on Discord, and behavioral signals like signs of working hours or the amount of time they spend on Discord.
“If we have a high confidence that they are an adult, they will not have to go through the other age verification flows,” Badalich says.
Translation: If you're foolish enough to install our spyware on your computer, let it auto-run and we are able to spy enough on you to convincingly know you're an adult you won't have to hand us an ID as we already know everything about you (and sell it to the gestapo, blood-boy loving billionaires, and regular marketers too I suppose).
next step, you must purchase a world.org orb and verify your irises to join your hitler chats
neat, i already avoid that cesspit as much as possible, but that will be the end of using it altogether for me
AIM gang stay winning.
On the road to fully automated luxury gay space communism.
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