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The suspect is believed to be Robert Card, a 20-year US Army veteran from Bowdoin Center, Maine.

(according to Telegrams so take with grain of salt)

EDIT: Name confirmed by news.

According to law enforcement, CARD recently reported mental health issues to include hearing voices and threats to shoot up the National Guard Base in Saco, ME.

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[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 148 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 68 points 2 years ago

The way I see it, the ship sailed on preventing mass shootings in the US with either Sandy Hook or Columbine. The shock of children being butchered gave way to The Discourse (TM) and now a large proportion of the population just accept shootings as a fact of life like car crashes.

Add to that the sheer number of guns in the US, as well as the gun-related brain rot in the general population, you'd need a campaign of concerted government action that would make the war against drugs look like child's play.

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[-] muirc@hexbear.net 55 points 2 years ago

Fucking evergreen

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 140 points 2 years ago

There were no initial signs of terrorism.

The not-terrorism/terrorism scale really is us-foreign-policy. The article was mentioning that this one event is close to being over the total number of murders in the state for all of 2022.

[-] pumpchilienthusiast@hexbear.net 92 points 2 years ago
[-] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 78 points 2 years ago

I find it hard to understand how someone can shoot about 100 people but police still haven't been to catch him yet. Maybe the vast emptiness of the suburban hellscape that makes it possible.

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 64 points 2 years ago

they taking cover behind elementary school children.

[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

pigs don't protect and serve

they just deflect and swerve

and then project with nerve

[-] Dimmer06@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago

Having lived in Lewiston a long time, I can tell you the cops there are all totally incompetent. They're not even murderous psychos that big city police forces hire. Just total dumbasses riding around eating donuts 50 hours a week. The police station is like a five minute drive from where this guy started shooting.

If you drive twenty minutes in any direction it's all woods and camps though. A helicopter can't do shit, there's no surveillance cameras, and very few people to call in tips.

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[-] autism_2@hexbear.net 77 points 2 years ago

threats to shoot up the National Guard Base

Schemengees Bar & Grille

if only his GPS didn't malfunction

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago

Yea clearly sane enough to realize people at the base might shoot back so went with youth league night at a local bowling alley.

At least we can take solace in the fact absolutely nothing will be done about this and the exact same thing could happen again next week.

[-] Mokey@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago

He worked at the base he knew where it was

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[-] AFineWayToDie@hexbear.net 74 points 2 years ago

This is a very active and dynamic situation. The image of at least one active killer has been released by police. He is armed with a tactical rifle.

Oh fuck, the shooter is still at large? I can easily imagine this getting worse as people go out to try and find the shooter.

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[-] iie@hexbear.net 72 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

it’s often pointed out that a lot of these guys have npd, which, yeah I buy that, but if npd was the driving factor this would be happening everywhere on earth, or at least everywhere with a lot of guns. What America also has is the diseased atmosphere of a crumbling, self-aggrandizing racist superpower where various segments of society are scapegoated for it crumbling, and you don’t get that in the news or in Psychology Today.

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[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 72 points 2 years ago

You can’t convince me this isn’t some strategy of tension shit. Like other mass shootings are obviously just pissed of crackers or incels who the police refuse to investigate despite being reported.

But this. This guy was mentally ill but somehow still allowed to be trained with military weapons and train other soldiers. And he was released without being fired, reportedly. And this shooting lasted several hours, and now he’s missing?

[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 75 points 2 years ago

none of those circumstances are beyond America's baseline level of not giving a shit about people

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[-] CommCat@hexbear.net 71 points 2 years ago

looks like another white guy?

[-] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 59 points 2 years ago

Gun laws in Maine, they seem pretty lax. https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-gun-laws/maine/

Open carry allowed with no permit, and it's a "castle doctrine" state.

Where's all the good people with guns?

[-] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 60 points 2 years ago

On this website, probably

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[-] kristina@hexbear.net 58 points 2 years ago

Almost like you shouldn't let people with genocidal ideologies have guns

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[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago

firearms instructor

army reservist

The mythical "good guy with a gun" to fashoids, checks all the boxes and yet here he is shooting people in the back at a youth bowling league.

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[-] DeathWearsANecktie@lemm.ee 51 points 2 years ago

This is just going to keep happening over and over and over again. It's always a tragedy but never a surprise.

[-] stigsbandit34z@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago

Let me guess, mental illness?

pain

Also, only a matter of time until we learn they were on the FBI’s radar

[-] dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org 35 points 2 years ago

Preliminary reporting seems to suggest that it might actually be a mental illness thing. They reported to superiors that they were hearing voices and were discharged without any restriction on owning high caliber firearms.

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[-] regul@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago
[-] ImmortanStalin@lemmygrad.ml 68 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

How many 9/11s is this so I can understand the scale?

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 81 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Well under 1. In fact, this article is anti-semitic for distracting the world from Israel's ongoing security issues.

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[-] dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org 51 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

What a terrible cold way to look at this tragedy. Anyway by my math using state populations it's about 1/10th of a 9/11.

Edit: if you use cities as the denominator, its about four 9/11s.

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[-] plinky@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago
[-] Zvyozdochka@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago

Now we wait for more ChatGPT generated thoughts and prayers and the usual "there is just no way to solve this"

[-] BigBoyKarlLiebknecht@hexbear.net 38 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

amerikkka

Gotta admit, it’s the first time I’ve heard of that place since I would listen to this song as a child. The way Fred says “Lewiston Maine” has been deeply wired my neurons and I feel like I just got a nu metal activation code.

Edit: i had forgotten how dog shit this song is, I apologize

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[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

According to the article he's actually 40 years old and was recently admitted to a mental health facility for two weeks.

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[-] goldfish@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago

having lived in rural maine, yes the nature was beautiful but socially it was pretty depressing and impoverished, but not a lot happens there so an 80-person mass shooting - I'm both really surprised and not very surprised at the same time :/

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