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[-] Soot@hexbear.net 91 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

This legislation isn't aimed at porn production or distributors, they know that's impractical. They're mainly criminalising individuals for "possession" which can include simply seeing it online.

The real issue is all this law will do (and I can only assume is intended to do) is enable police to arbitrarily imprison people with an incredibly low bar of evidence (e.g. claiming they viewed the pornhub front page, or saw a post on Reddit). It just enables further police-state clamp down and extremely easy targeting of political enemies and 'troublemakers'.

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 40 points 5 days ago

Yeah I was going to say, there's literally entire porn studios dedicated to cranking (heh pun) out step sibling roleplay porn. This is like jailing someone for simply being sent a link, or searching for "milf" and having the results implicate them in a crime.

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

"OPEN UP! STEP-POLICE!!"

[-] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 60 points 5 days ago

You got a loicense for that offputting but somehow still mainstream wankslop?

[-] horn_e4_beaver@discuss.tchncs.de 47 points 5 days ago

In fact, in the UK, around half of all sexual abuse cases against children are perpetrated by step parents, yet the depiction of this type of pornography allows porn companies to profit from content that depicts something which is utterly illegal in the UK."

I for one can't wait until all films and books only contain stories where all characters strictly adhere to the law.

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[-] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 48 points 5 days ago

They do know it's just pretend, right? It's absurd to make pretend things a crime.

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 24 points 5 days ago

scientology is pretend and should be several crimes

[-] Carl@hexbear.net 34 points 5 days ago

Well the thing is the scientology itself is pretend but the extorting followers for massive amounts of money is very real

[-] godlessworm@hexbear.net 19 points 5 days ago

Scientology isn't pretend. Fucking rube. Do you know how much money I gave them? And you think they're pretend. Ok. I guess I'm just stupid and give my money to whatever. Ok.

[-] axont@hexbear.net 13 points 5 days ago

And how can it be pretend if the e-meter says my thetans are clear of engrams? Come on it's basic tech.

[-] jackmaoist@hexbear.net 10 points 5 days ago

Lolicon is also pretend child porn.

[-] Saeculum@hexbear.net 7 points 5 days ago

Just because something is disgusting doesn't mean it should be illegal. IMO we should have an evidence based policy rooted in preventing harm, and I don't see how a bunch of creeps drawing something unsavoury is causing harm to anyone.

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[-] ConcreteHalloween@hexbear.net 50 points 5 days ago

Oh no! What are all those poor girls going to do when they stuck in their household appliances?

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 39 points 5 days ago

monke-return Back to plumbers and pizza delivery scenes.

[-] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 13 points 5 days ago

Noooo! Plumbers have to leave their homes to do their jobs, the fantasy is ruined!

[-] Blep@hexbear.net 10 points 5 days ago

Plumbers have jobs, which as we all know is unattainable in the year of our lord 2026

[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 21 points 5 days ago

Congress set to pass new legislation regulating the spacing of vertical posts in banisters

[-] Noodles4dinner@hexbear.net 52 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Pornographic depictions of getting stuck in a washing machine will remain legal, but will require a new permitting process.

[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 16 points 5 days ago

The manufacturer of the washing machine needs to get a cut of the proceeds, now.

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[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 45 points 5 days ago

I genuinely wish there was an effective ban on "barely legal"/schoolgirl stuff being put on big platforms* because it's literally just simulating pedophilia and sometimes gets used to smuggle in csam on a false pretext about the victim's age, but somehow I doubt this legislation on nonce island is really interested in stopping any of that.

*I'm not interested in arguing about what you personally like to do in private. If you can't recognize that this shit being blasted on huge platforms encourages an attitude of sexualizing minors in broader society, then I don't know what to tell you. The core of its marketing, as we can see from the name, is literally its proximity to things that are rightfully illegal. But again, I must assume that this legislation has no interest in human welfare despite this.

[-] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

OK, so I'm basically sympathetic to this position, but we have to recognize that when we create a positive law like this, it's tricky. Part of what makes a good positive law is a clear, obvious, simple line. As an example: 18 (or any specific number) as age of consent. Why is it good? It's clear, obvious, and simple. As much as libertarians do the "BUT WHAT ABOUT 17 years and 364 DAYS" cope, the fact is, we have decided upon a line as a society and thus we (somewhat arbitrarily - one could make arguments for 20, or 21 as more acceptable!) have decided 18 years is that line. "Age ain't nothing but a number" - yes, but you have to abide by the law you perverts.

I don't know what the "clear simple and obvious" here is. After all, as you note, there's nothing inherently wrong with wearing school uniforms for sexual acts among two consenting adults. Similarly, there's nothing inherently right about a 40 year old having sex with an 18 year old. However, in the latter, it's a clear legal issue (disgusting morality aside). Partner over 18, not illegal, partner under 18, gulag. While I do like the addition of "big platforms" here, I just don't know what the proper line looks like. Are clothes that seem schoolgirl-ish unacceptable (so aping a uniform but not actually using a uniform)? It's just hard to police, legally speaking.

I want to make it totally clear: I don't think that "over 18" magically absolves people of immoral behavior. Power dynamics and age dynamics are a thing, but we can't as a society police this stuff (as much as I'd love to). Similarly, I don't think that "barely legal" material is somehow worth defending in the particular, rather, understanding what an effective ban looks like matters here. Thus, we have to use a clear demarcation that is arbitrary and brightly colored. I don't know what that looks like w/r/t the content of pornography, beyond the participation of underage parties being illegal/no snuff films/no scenarios that claim to represent illegal acts (so here, you can't "say" the actress is 16 even when actually of age - which remains a very clear and obvious line).

Final postscript: this is also not a defense of nonce island's legislation, I think we all agree those people are not acting in good faith.

[-] redrumBot@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 days ago

That's not the case in all countries, in Spain the age of consent is 16, but can be less if there are proximity in degree of maturity and age.

I'm not aware that this model has created problems, and it's better than the old law (13 the age of consent).

[-] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 6 points 5 days ago

13 is depraved.

I know some states have 16 as age of consent but I really think some push towards 18 as a global standard would do a lot of good. It's not perfect but a 16 year old is a lot more vulnerable since they're still a minor under the law. It doesn't magically make you an "adult" at 18 but having the protections of adulthood, such as they are I think is an important legal distinction.

The US has similar laws to what you describe as well (Romeo and Juliet laws) so that if two underage ppl (16 and 17 for instance) don't become criminal when one turns 18. I should say it's actually important to have those as well, because otherwise parents can use the law against their kids if they don't approve of who the date (eg. a gay kid who is 16 dates a 17 year old and after the partner turns 18 the parents could prosecute the partner w/o these carve outs).

Importantly though, this doesn't protect some 23 year old creeping on underage girls, and rightly so.

Ultimately I think a standard 19 or 20 for all adulthood (drink, smoke, sex, vote, drugs) would make the most sense, but I recognize some people think a 16 year old is old enough to consent. I just think the power dynamics there are disgusting

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[-] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Yeah. I'm normally pretty libertine about kinks and alternative sexuality, but any inkling that a character might be underage is an instant mood killer.

(It also means I have a bone to pick with certain parts of the Deltarune fandom. The trio are in high school, this isn't even subtext, it's just text (okay, Ralsei isn't in high school because he lives in the Dark World, but he's clearly meant to be in the same age cohort as Kris and Susie))

[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 9 points 5 days ago

Yeah, I'm a weeb so you can imagine that I've seen a lot of people (and media) that are super normal about minors, and that probably informs my attitude about some of this a lot more than the porn in question (though some issues are different, like the actual CSAM getting smuggled into porn platforms under the false pretext that the victim is "barely legal").

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[-] plinky@hexbear.net 45 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

gambling destroying poorer families and increasing gender violence porky-happy

weird fantasies lonely people get into porky-scared

(i'm using gambling as a contrast, as it was typical moral panic of the early 20th century, and cuts same across christian morality, somehow the first is never entertained)

[-] Saeculum@hexbear.net 5 points 5 days ago

If we want a closer comparison, this law potentially makes cousin porn illegal while at the same time the government has been defending the right to cousin marriage.

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[-] miz@hexbear.net 45 points 5 days ago

so basically there will be an office where people spend all day reviewing porn to determine if it violates the law?

thats-disgusting-where

[-] Goblinmancer@hexbear.net 32 points 5 days ago

Ban the biggest incest family (royals) first please

[-] deforestgump@hexbear.net 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I was about to say, isn't this how their whole government runs?

[-] Muinteoir_Saoirse@hexbear.net 32 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The more interesting part of this is banning "barely legal" and schoolgirl stuff. Basically making roleplaying as a minor in porn illegal. This is already the law in Canada, where Aylo (the company that owns Pornhub among many others) is headquartered, and I'm sure we all know how well it is enforced.

[-] RION@hexbear.net 21 points 5 days ago

What aren't you doing, stepbro kelly

[-] ephemeral@hexbear.net 12 points 5 days ago

can we ban landlord porn? because fuck that shit

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 5 points 4 days ago

what if the landlord is killed and the adult tenants in the building have an orgy?

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 19 points 5 days ago

first they came for stepcest and i said nothing because i don't care

[-] Beaver@hexbear.net 18 points 5 days ago

What other type of porn is there?!

[-] OffSeasonPrincess@hexbear.net 17 points 5 days ago

Which kinds of "i cant believe its not incest" stuff does this include. Is clonecest illegal? Time travel and other kinds of self-cest? What if they dont know theyre related and its a twist, or they think theyre related but arent?

[-] OffSeasonPrincess@hexbear.net 18 points 5 days ago

Also is game of thrones now illegal in perfidious Albion

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 16 points 5 days ago

Star Wars? banned

[-] MeetMeAtTheMovies@hexbear.net 17 points 5 days ago

Look just don’t let them find out about my particular niche of porn and we’ll be fine

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 17 points 5 days ago

Bring back the humble pizza man meets lonely woman ordering an extra large sausage!

[-] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 17 points 5 days ago

We haven't had enough wh*res who steal lemons lately.

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 9 points 5 days ago

Thanks to gig ~~grifts~~ economy the (to-the-)step-delivery person is now out of a job & can't pay rent.

[-] pierre_delecto@hexbear.net 9 points 5 days ago

Don't the people have bigger problems right now? 😆

[-] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 9 points 5 days ago

This is outrageous! It's unfair!

[-] btbt@hexbear.net 8 points 5 days ago
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